JOHN SMITH

so after 9 pages nobody can even tell me how to test god? and yet you are arguing about if he exist or not ?You are all more stupid than I thought.

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Science is bullshit. Science is only a mans theory (opinion) then him providing a reasonable explanation backed up with "facts". You have different theories on what you can eat from what you cant and all that nonesense so frequently. To me they are not reliable. What makes a scientist more than your local Reverend that claims to have experienced a sign from God and has back it up with reasonable explanation? Not muchRemember once upon a time the world was flat, and it was a FACT, factthe world still is flat. FORCE=MASS X ACCELERATION is valid in Euclidean geometry. So? God simply is. He is omnipresent.

they should know better tbhMANY scientists yeh? Like who? and so what?It's not like religion and science are mutually exclusive.

bruv, youre proper soft in the head you know.

relax your caps lock gif we were created to worship thats exactly what we will do a robot that can think buy itsself will still respode to its core programingNO BUT THATS WHERE YOU'RE WRONG. WE WAS CREATED TO WORSHIP IF WE CHOOSE TO. THATS WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. SO UNDERSTAND IT AND STOP TRYING TO REFUTE THE IRREFUTABLE.

IT'S CALLED FREE WILL. JUST BECAUSE WE WERE CREATED TO WORSHIP WE CAN CHOOSE TO EXERCISE FREE WILL AND NOT TO. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.IF I CREATE A ROBOT TO DO XYZ IT WILL DO XYZ. BUT THE DIFFERENCE WITH HUMANS IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO THINK FOR OURSELVES.

lol @ wat you think hell is aboutWHAT DO U UNDASTAND HELLL TO BE ABOUT SQUIRE ?ETERNAL DAMNATION AND BURNING IN HELLFIRE MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE .... SATAN WONT BE PUNISHING YOU FOR BEING EVIL AS THATS WAT HE WAS... IF ANYTHING HE WILL RATE YOU1. what the f*ck do you know about an entitys who may not even exist perspective2. eternal damnation and burning in hellfire makes no logical sense? Religion barely makes any logical sense you twatYou're bare deluded stillBut it'd be sick if Satan was like The Robet Devil in Futurama.IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE LOGICAL.GOD IS NOT LOGICAL. GOD IS ABOVE LOGIC.so why do we need to pray and worship him?shouldnt he be above thatWELL HE CREATED US. WE WORSHIP HIM BECAUSE WE WERE CREATED TO. HOWEVER WE ALSO HAVE A CHOICE NOT TO.

lol @ wat you think hell is aboutWHAT DO U UNDASTAND HELLL TO BE ABOUT SQUIRE ?ETERNAL DAMNATION AND BURNING IN HELLFIRE MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE .... SATAN WONT BE PUNISHING YOU FOR BEING EVIL AS THATS WAT HE WAS... IF ANYTHING HE WILL RATE YOU1. what the f*ck do you know about an entitys who may not even exist perspective2. eternal damnation and burning in hellfire makes no logical sense? Religion barely makes any logical sense you twatYou're bare deluded stillBut it'd be sick if Satan was like The Robet Devil in Futurama.IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE LOGICAL.GOD IS NOT LOGICAL. GOD IS ABOVE LOGIC.

But think about this yea.God loves us so much he gave us ''free will'', since he's all knowing he should know many of us will disobey. But still why does he show so much surprise, and therefore has the need to eternally punish someone like that. But it's in our best interest init Is his self-esteem that low? ''Oh boo-hoo, worship me, even though I know some of you won't'' KMT abegYes sin deserves punishment, but the punishment should fit the crime.HE IS NOT SURPRISED. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL AND HE MAKES THE RULES NOT YOU. SO YOU EITHER PLAY ALONG OR YOU DONT.SIMPLE.Bruv, extremely punishing a human being who doesn't believe in you, obviously out of anger...you're telling me there's no surprise element there?If he really wanted us to worship him, then why give free will in the first place?LOOKYOU CANT TAKE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT THEN DRAW CONCLUSIONS WHICH ARE FALSE.AND WE DONT KNOW WHY GOD DOES EVERYTHING GOD IS OMNISCIENT AND INFINITE. WE CANNOT COMPREHEND THE INFINTE WE ARE FINITE BEINGS.

But think about this yea.God loves us so much he gave us ''free will'', since he's all knowing he should know many of us will disobey. But still why does he show so much surprise, and therefore has the need to eternally punish someone like that. But it's in our best interest init Is his self-esteem that low? ''Oh boo-hoo, worship me, even though I know some of you won't'' KMT abegYes sin deserves punishment, but the punishment should fit the crime.HE IS NOT SURPRISED. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL AND HE MAKES THE RULES NOT YOU. SO YOU EITHER PLAY ALONG OR YOU DONT.SIMPLE.

OH SO IF WE ASK FOR GOD AND SOMETHING HAPPENS IT IS GOD?WHAT KIND OF TEST IS THAT? CERTAINLY NOT A SCIENTIFIC ONE.

I've been in f*cked up situations, but I survived becasue of MY WILL POWER. I don't really know about your cousin's experience but people just find any excuses to believe there is a God, there are such things as coincidences you know.It's funny how something good happens and people are so quick to attribute it to God, but when something bad happens, they return to reality and don't say God was responsible, or if they do they say its ''his will''. So what's the point in praying and asking for help when he's gonna do whatever he pleases anyway?It's all in yo' heeeyadShe's had questionable doubts because obviously growing up in a houshold where christianity is basically forced upon... when things aren't going right u think to urself is there really a god....she wasnt findin an excuse to believe....she just wanted to know because she was confused... i dnt see how that could have been a coincedence... and the speaking in toungues?? a coincedence to?ANYONE CAN SPEAK THAT. JUST RECORD IT AND LISTEN BACK TO IT. TELL ME IF IT MAKES SENSE.AND YOU HAVE NOT RESPONDED YOUNG LADY.<>JOHN SMITH<>(PHD)

Many people have tested him, with a successful outcome, which by your theory proves his existance.Just because you dont know them, and they don't include you... Does everybody including yourself need to test him with a successful outcome to prove he exists?HOW HAVE THEY TESTED HIM?

mm, nah it aint possible, you are an imbecile methinksYou have claimed I do not understand something but there isnt anything to be confused about, except your mental state.The argument you have given is the one that is commonly used against god"Do not test your god""If you cannot test him, you cannot prove he exists, therefore he doesnt"Not saying thats anything I beleive, but that is where you have gotten your argument twisted, the thigns you are claiming are things that go against the existance of god, not for.Please refrain from posting, or at least consider what you post before doing so.Or at least direct your arguments at real people who have actually said something, instead of random posts about Imaginary people that havent even asked for proof.its like me starting a thread saying "SO YOU SAY RONALDO ISNT GOOD? LOOK AT HIS GOALS"Noone has claimed the contrary so i have no reason to make the thread.this chain of logic was a big fail out here today if applied to the non existence of a being,certain science fans shud realise that science is our way of trying to understand the machinations of the world,its not a manufacturers handbook,otherwise we wud have easy cures for cancer,aids available from yr local farmacy. science is not the ultimate truth of reality,it is limited,do not be fooled by a fake pair of titsa definitively insular reality is proof of a narrow mind,therefore yr opinion on the matter is blinkered and the authority of yr statement is voided,or at least the opinion of whoever would draw from there own personal experience only to prove the existence of a next being isfor this reason research has led me to beleive that evrything exists which is why im able to still send a list to the north pole each year for christmas and receive all the kit that i requested within 28 days,free of charge.sorry if its not the same for u man,must of been some bad kids,but hey,u cant say it doesnt happen just because it doesnt happen to you.certain man have been watching next mans beliefs wen they shud be watching miracle on 34th streethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2za92DQOCw SCIENCE IS OUR BEST APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF REALITY. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER SUGGESTION? PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS A PART OF SCIENCE TOO. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ITS VOIDED YOUNG MAN.<>JOHN SMITH<>(PHD)

IM NOT ASKING FOR PROOF EITHER.IF HE CANT BE TESTED HE CANT BE PROVEN. SIMPLE AS THAT. SO YOU CANT ASK FOR PROOF.NOW WHICH PART DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? IF POSSIBLE PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS.THANKYOU.<>JOHN SMITH<>

HOW CAN HE BE TESTED?

IF HE CANT BE TESTED HE CANT BE PROVEN. SIMPLE AS THAT. SO YOU CANT ASK FOR PROOF.LOLYou are getting the argument the wrong way round son.It is because he cant be tested, stop asking for proof that he doesnt exist.You can ask for proof of anything that anyone else claims to be real. If they cannot provide proof then Oh dear for them.YOU ARE WRONG.HE CANT BE PROVEN SO STOP ASKING FOR PROOF. IF YOU WANT PROOF THEN TELL ME WHAT PROOF YOU'D LIKE?

IF HE CANT BE TESTED HE CANT BE PROVEN. SIMPLE AS THAT. SO YOU CANT ASK FOR PROOF.

YOU HAVE ONLY DEMONSTRATED THE LACK OF INTELLIGENCE BY YOUR POSTS.THANKYOU.<>JOHN SMITH<>

HOW CAN GOD BE TESTED?WE ALL ASK FOR PROOF THAT HE EXISTS BUT WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A PROOF?IF THEY CANT ANSWER THAT HOW CAN THEY EVEN ASK FOR PROOF?<>JOHN SMITH<>