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@charliechalk you really make me laugh.maybe you need to check in the dictionary the definition of slag/whore and whatnot.all the things I say I have experienced with my boyfriend(who is now an ex) so if my exciting sex life with him makes me a slag,then I dont give a f*ck, I had mad good times! :)I think you are a slag too. seems our feelings are mutual

there is a whole topic on this already if you search some pages back.

ThisI prefer show.and @Nola how long have you been dealing with your guy?i dont wanna say cause it makes me wince but toooo long now, on and off its a madness really. Deaded it the beginning of this year but he's trying to come back Im 8 months into a 'similar' situation, but strangely I like it like this, and am in no way wanting him to say anything. I think I like it like this because at the moment im not ready (and nor is he) for it to become THAT even tho it is obvious.I had a situation before this one that I had to lock off because it was going on for too long (and is technically still going on but I am not entertaining of interested anymore), where he was doing it in a way where he was scared to say and pretending rather then not wanting to say. I dont like it when it is a pussyin out version lol

ThisI prefer show.and @Nola how long have you been dealing with your guy?

:D ........ aaah sh*t pot,kettle,mug,spoon,sugar... black? let the comedy continue.

Female POV's on this site are very limited I've come to see. Most have to pretend like they have some prudish sexlife. I really dont know wat I've said that is so scandalous tbh.oh well.

This debate about what genitalia I possess is hilarious!

Just a tad lol yea ive never heard of this happening beforeI've had this happen in my sleep, would wake with the tingling aswell..that good ish

I feel what you are saying Venom, but sometimes it takes diff methods to sway diff kinds of people. Some respond to diplomacy where other will respond to militancy.

Ah I see where I caused you confusion my bad,correction:' in what information they are feeding you is right and because of who they are you should therefore be expected to agree with them and take what they are saying as gospel'

You are aware that the academics in those institutions probably wrote those articles yeah? They have a sh*t load of mods who are alerted as soon as an article is changed and check its' veracity. It's genius and if you dont like it you can GEEEET AUUTT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ Cool,in my experience sometimes academics (the ones in positions of influence)can be the worst kinds of people, because they are in this position of education authority,they at times automatically get that sense of power in what information they are feeding you is right and because of who they are you therefore should agree with them and take what they are saying as gospel(let's be real allota people are sheep like that cos they are impressionable). But truth is some of them are wankers with(sometimes evil) agenda's,not to be trusted,f*ck up peoples own autonomy of learning (ie the Bloody UK schooling curriculum!) With their biases and bullshit. Not all obviously but their are some. That's why personal education is important, gaining your own sense of autonomy in what you think is satisfactory(in terms of historical research).History research is very complex, and yea a good point you made earlier, how plausible can any historical resource be?if any credible resource even exists at all this day and age! You just said that academics shouldn't be argued with because the subject at hand is their forte, now you're saying that their arrogance causes them to think whatever they say is fact? Fix up your continuity game G Hmmm I think you got wat I said confused.Academics should always be argued with! As to not try and repeat to much cos that's all I seem to be doing, I said SOME academics are not to be trusted becasues of how they promote their knowledge,SOME have agendas that brainwash impressionable people into narrowminded ignorance.those ppl who rely on being fed all the time rather than corroborate the information with their OWN means of research. To then go on to challenge these people in those academic positions.

So,basically all you want is a wiki quote to contest your arguement and that would be enough cos 'this isn't oxford'. please, you just dnt want it to be true that Africa pioneered western 'civilisation'. We all know that ignorance is sometimes bliss!

You are aware that the academics in those institutions probably wrote those articles yeah? They have a sh*t load of mods who are alerted as soon as an article is changed and check its' veracity. It's genius and if you dont like it you can GEEEET AUUTT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ Cool,in my experience sometimes academics (the ones in positions of influence)can be the worst kinds of people, because they are in this position of education authority,they at times automatically get that sense of power in what information they are feeding you is right and because of who they are you therefore should agree with them and take what they are saying as gospel(let's be real allota people are sheep like that cos they are impressionable). But truth is some of them are wankers with(sometimes evil) agenda's,not to be trusted,f*ck up peoples own autonomy of learning (ie the Bloody UK schooling curriculum!) With their biases and bullshit. Not all obviously but their are some. That's why personal education is important, gaining your own sense of autonomy in what you think is satisfactory(in terms of historical research).History research is very complex, and yea a good point you made earlier, how plausible can any historical resource be?if any credible resource even exists at all this day and age!

If wiki is enough for you to satisfy you of topics, than that is fair enough we all don't have to like the same methods of research. Like I said earlier I just personally like to corroberate what I read.Wiki will never be enough for me. Its just how I've be taught,try to keep an open mind, drop any hostility against those who may not think like me.imo its healthy to not agree, also makes it more fun.

The fact randoms can tamper with it makes it lose its strength, otherwise its decent.But if you was trying to challenge academics in certain institutions and cite wiki? They will tell you to 'get da f*ck outta here'... in an articulate way of course. But hey this is Vip2, and the emotions in these 'debates' usually reflect pride moreso than knowledge.

Heh, wikipedia...my most despised resource. Anyway it is obvious we have different methods in challenging people in discussions. I hav personally learnt that having an opinion biased heavily on passion(emotions such as disgust from the white mans oppression against black people) will fall on deaf ears or the 'truth' will relentlessly be denied by the opposing forces UNLESS you arm youself with a cunning level of articulation, resources and diplomatic yet assertive means of excecution. Otherwise you will get laughed at for your 'radical' ideas. Seriously, technically I am on your side and even I am not convinced! Hahaha!

if you are talking to me, I never said there is anything wrong with watching resources on youtube.

In history there is such thing as accredited sources, counter sources and debates which go into forming a historical narrative. History is essentially a narrative. What you've provided is internet articles which can be written by any old d*ck and ali. You need to provide the evidence so a healthy debate can actually happen because right now it's like anyone who doesn't agree with what you have to say is either wrong, misinformed or part of a Eurocentric conspiracy. Grow up mate. The sudden twist to the thread is interesting. I personally wonder why people rely so heavily on shitty internet resources. I took a look at that l&l thread, it would be nice if people actually read books, journals ,old newspapers,letters,interviews(the wealth of info at your finger tips is endless) or is that technique obsolete these days?? laziness ??... the spoon feeding point is interesting because alot of that goes on,in such debates like this. people who keep begging for information, why not go to the British library(or any f*ckin library) and do your own research?? why rely on biased he said she said,when generally people on this site regurgitate information in a shitty manner. Maybe because I love reading and nourishing my mind is why im suggesting this. I never like to argue on things without indepth personal research. people like to fly their mouth armed with ignorance. those shitty internet sources you claim are shitty actually DID cite journals, books, and actual archeological discoveries of proof that support the fact that much of western history has been distorted at the expense of africa and asia. you're writing long chapters calling "internet sources" sh*t. Yet its this same internet thats allowed this information to come out. these books and journals were not written on youtube BUT YOUTUBE ALLOWS PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IN THOSE BOOKS SO YOU CAN READ FOR YOURSELF COS THE HISTORY CHANNEL OR BBC IS NOT GOING TO POINT YOU IN THAT DIRECTION. some of those documentaries were by some people that carpe said cane to give lectures at his uni. are we supposed to find the breh's number and ask him for a personal interview or do we benefit from the same kind of lecture which was recorded on youtube? from his name we can then use the internet and research how 'credible' he is. thats why i said you havent done any research about the sources you're talking about cos ur mind is already made up. so u have no place commenting on sh*t you dont know anything about. not gonna bother talking about this again. The end at your passionate attack... my whole point is that i want people to expand on their own personal research rather than make up their mind in limitation.. so no not the end? this is why I purposely avoided putting any opinion of my own in this topic, you would be surprised to know my own personal beliefs on this,wanted to see how far people jump to conclusions. of course the internet gives the opportunity of resources and on-line debates, I highly enjoy reading them but there is one thing to go onto a website journal (in example) which supposedly sites all these sources then to go and do your own personal research beyond the screen. to me the internet is another means of spoon feeding biases. to actually accessing the complete journal in your very hands,with other resources to back up the journal, being able to see the WHOLE article,not just a piece taken out of it,used to twist an idea to fit their own interpretation. By accessing information through your own research on what you consider as credible rather than than relying on the way others formulate their own interpretation. Only then can you be content (to a degree) otherwise you will continue going in circles demanding other people to 'give me evidence'. Most of the information online is REGURGITATED which was my point, if you go to the actual book/journal/newspaper source yourself you can make up your OWN mind and not just rely on how it is presented to you in a more likely biased stance. For example even Dr. Phil Valentine himself said in one of his lectures (in a colourful and entertaining way) do not expect him to feed you all of this information and be the only means to answer your questions, he encouraged people to go out and research on the back of his lectures. Too many people limit themselves. ...oh and you can find Mr. Valentine on facebook and 'chat to the breh'

In history there is such thing as accredited sources, counter sources and debates which go into forming a historical narrative. History is essentially a narrative. What you've provided is internet articles which can be written by any old d*ck and ali. You need to provide the evidence so a healthy debate can actually happen because right now it's like anyone who doesn't agree with what you have to say is either wrong, misinformed or part of a Eurocentric conspiracy. Grow up mate. The sudden twist to the thread is interesting. I personally wonder why people rely so heavily on shitty internet resources. I took a look at that l&l thread, it would be nice if people actually read books, journals ,old newspapers,letters,interviews(the wealth of info at your finger tips is endless) or is that technique obsolete these days?? laziness ??... the spoon feeding point is interesting because alot of that goes on,in such debates like this. people who keep begging for information, why not go to the British library(or any f*ckin library) and do your own research?? why rely on biased he said she said,when generally people on this site regurgitate information in a shitty manner. Maybe because I love reading and nourishing my mind is why im suggesting this. I never like to argue on things without indepth personal research. people like to fly their mouth armed with ignorance. That's his whole point though, the information made available at the British library is skewered. Like they say if you want people to believe something put it in a book. than what resource is he asking for people to provide if the major primary and secondary sources are not enough? unfortunately we do not have a time machine so resources for history in the form of books (and whatnot),or oral tradition is all we can use to formulate arguments on history. just like Chinese whispers, we can never know things 100% but you can speculate to accumulate. for this particular arguement going on, like that guy said nobody seems to have researched deep enough to genuinely speak on it tbh.

In history there is such thing as accredited sources, counter sources and debates which go into forming a historical narrative. History is essentially a narrative. What you've provided is internet articles which can be written by any old d*ck and ali. You need to provide the evidence so a healthy debate can actually happen because right now it's like anyone who doesn't agree with what you have to say is either wrong, misinformed or part of a Eurocentric conspiracy. Grow up mate. The sudden twist to the thread is interesting. I personally wonder why people rely so heavily on shitty internet resources. I took a look at that l&l thread, it would be nice if people actually read books, journals ,old newspapers,letters,interviews(the wealth of info at your finger tips is endless) or is that technique obsolete these days?? laziness ??... the spoon feeding point is interesting because alot of that goes on,in such debates like this. people who keep begging for information, why not go to the British library(or any f*ckin library) and do your own research?? why rely on biased he said she said,when generally people on this site regurgitate information in a shitty manner. Maybe because I love reading and nourishing my mind is why im suggesting this. I never like to argue on things without indepth personal research. people like to fly their mouth armed with ignorance.

/ Lol Even though I'd read ppl's comments about the bootah, when she actually showed it, I was still like 'where the f*ck did that come from?' I would love to meet her, been wanting to go to her concert so bad but I missed the chance next time for sure! A good friend of mine was too speaking of that message that Badu said at the end ,just a week ago, had to send the video to her after watching it!! I love the fact that her physical beauty is a shock, means people actually rate her for the profoundness of her music rather her surviving on her body as a means of promotion. Shes always been thick,(probs more so after her babies) just doesnt exploit it like the majority of artists out 'ere cos that aint wat she is about.

..... where did you recieve this confimation? / ah the message at the end is so true. I can totally relate to this song. I fully rate this video

I dont actually know how to embed the video.... Sorry if this has been posted but she killed it with this video, the concept,the message,her beauty..her banging body...this video is too much, :!:

Boooy I been in a similiar situation. Its a hard one cos u do like them bt its nt about being associated with such behaviour.What did u do in the end?Very hard one indeed seeing as she lives 2 roads away and literally grew up with her Got rid of someone like this at the end of last year, we were close at one point and she was alright when i first met her a few years ago, even though id heard a few rumours about her, but eventually her true colours started to show through and she did infact turn out to be a complete down and out hoe, couldnt stand being around it anymore, sh*t was embarrassing.hmmm. Shes shown her true colours already. just blyed dem. Plus i noticed how she stays when it comes to man and the dudes she 'knows' .. made me question her.If it was a good friend of mine I would talk to her and tell her she does not have to carry herself like that, disrepecting herself. Thats if its some serious level of whoring cos some things you dont get involved in.Some girls are past talking to though, the situation with my friend got out of hand, she was seeing about 3 different guys at the same time, one of them was living with her, one used to travel down from london at random times of night when the other guy wasnt there, and the third one she decided she was going to marry to get him his green card, he used to stay at hers even before she got rid of the one she was living with, no idea how these guys accepted this but oh well. At this point i tried talking to her like, 'look u can't bring all these different men in and out of your house all hours of the day and night infront of your kids, what the f*ck must they be thinking about all this' and her reaction was pretty much confusion and disregard of what i said, as if i was talking complete sh*t. We don't talk at all now, but last i heard she is back with her ex from a year ago who stole her kids xmas money to buy crack, hes actually in prison now facing deportation, and apparently now shes going to marry him to 'save him'Some girls lives are just fail after fail 2bh, when u think its ok to conduct your life that way theres no way anyone can save you 2bh no matter what they say(Angry after thinking about all that again)Oh wow gurl that is some NEXT situation.. for me there is only so much I will do. I am a tell you once kinda person and it is up to you to decide on what to do. because truthfully there is only so much you can do to help a person at the end of the day it is up to them to make the ultimate decision to change. So if the situation with a friend was getting out of hand I would not get involved. If they call me up to talk about it genuinely wanting help I will see what I can do, but if they continue to turn down my initial advice then oh well, I would not want them to talk to me about any relationship related issue because I wouldn't want to know or entertain it.