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Kuffir you clearly have no understanding of the historical context Smoking weed, sleeping with blax, heroin etc, by today's standards are very tame. The demonisation of those old school musics and artists had much to do with American racism and the need to regulate, censor and demonise anything young black people did. Clearly Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Charlie Parker and all the house people in the 80s weren't inciting violence, weren't inspiring young black men to do da mad ting you thick little prat. It was the societal environment that framed these black musics negatively. Fast forward to now, there are no redeeming features to drill music. No one can argue, except enabling morons such as Kufir that drill music is being unfairly labelled or framed by the powers that be. Is there any wonder black people in the UK, comparatively and collectively, are behind other ethnicities and races when a genre as truly worthless as drill is defended so passionately by fully grown men? Is there any hope for blx?

Why are u forcing this shit argument u clearly aint though thru. i knew if u even replied after racking ur limited knowledge base u would of course mention the cliche heroin jazz thing U know full well your argument is stupid gg. And regards the cringeworthy tough guy talk, in real life what could u do to me? get violent coz u got made to feel stupid? Definition of triggered

brb lads. This banger jus gassed me to go do a mad ting....

Man said incubators of immoral behaviour kmt lol you know when someones tryna sound clever for no reason and they just flop. House, jazz, soul, rnb, etc all those type of genres 100% cannot be compared to drill music in terms of the effects and emotions they elicit. Surely this is fucking obvious?

Haha. Use ur brain you thick little prat. Listening to Miles Davis and Coltrane never made anyone draw fi da ting. You just mentioned jazz to sound like u got a clue but really ur chatting shit. Some of these stupid little road kids could benefit from learning how to play a saxophone tbh. Di culture needs to change quick time

This kid is chatting shit on LBC this is why in real life I just hold my tongue when I hear the SHIT people come out with. Not Pk the other yout

The overwhelming majority of road men are just victims of capitalism. They had no special struggles that led them onto the roads, other than their own inner weakness AND inability to DEFER GRATIFICATION in their shitty lives.

People really do talk out of their arse. Its actually amazing. How can people not see the music is a large part of it. Drill is just a new form of the problem, but its been around since gangsta rap and the more violent aspects of Jamaican dancehall. There were NO black musics before that were celebrating the shit we have normalised. Humans are very impressionable and gullible. If you remove these music cultures, and introduce a new way or thing for young people to identify and attach themself to, they will follow that like sheep. The violence is so OBVIOUSLY related to the music and the surrounding culture you just have to assume people are either literally thick as a pile of shit, or they are pretending and deep down they know what the problem is. Most of these impressionable little road men who do dirt for their olders and stand around morning to night selling crack for their olders, basically working 14 hour plus shifts, these are the gullible types who could be corralled into political activity of some sort if they see everyone else doing it because they are ultimately just followers.

Selling drugs is cool! lol

Essex people, that come from the cockneys generally who used to live in the slums of East London, used to be the blacks of London. They were at the bottom of the London class 'rankings'. #historyfordimongsdem....

This guy is a G. Grew up in a real ghetto like Burngreave now he is a bloodclart lord Mayor. Nah but he is defo an inspiration and motivation Sheffield used to be a great city for immigrants before the eastern European scumbags fucked it up for everyone

Fucked coz I was just tryna get paid again! Mayhem>>>>>> In fact Birmingham>London when it comes to Grime these days.

Its also a poor/working class thing. The eye opener for me was seeing people born into real generational wealth who didnt care about flashy brand clothes, then theres me spending my little part time job money/ema to look fresh every day for 6th form. After that i gradually stopped caring as much about always needing to stunt with or about brand clothes. doesnt mean u dont look after urself or ur appearance.

Its all bants tbf. Some people on here just love to whine and cry about all my posts. I could write 1 plus 1 is 2 and kuffir will neg me and quote me with some emotional diatribe about why I am a fake intellectual and 1 plus 1 is actually 17 in his opinion. Smh...

I like nice things like anyone else. Those Air Maxes where copped as 'beaters', foreign concept to you maybe but not to many people I know. This is why subcultures and apps like wavey garms and depop popped off the past few years. But thats irrelevant really. Many different Aff people like to floss but when u clock how and why they floss, u see it for what its worth. U simee darg? Kl

That is true. But there is a difference between that and the brain dead aspirational Afroman types.

Toney I try to be kind and not call people out for their thickness and blatant lack of education, but the likes of Kuffir draw me out. 'worst thinker' you know lol dont make me laugh Kuffir gg, I am evidently not the 'worst debater/thinker' a site full of fuckwits like VIP has seen when I am among the esteemed company of intellects such as yhfam and yourself. Many times when I post controversial things, idiots like you come in the thread crying but you never logically DECONSTRUCT what I say. Until U can intellectually refute my polemical ideas, just stick to pressing the neg button with your tail between your legs like the fucking halfwit you are.

The ironic thing is, I originally made the point that spac nation badly reflects on certain aspects of west Aff culture; excessive need to peacock, the need to appear wealthier than one is, or at least to project an image of higher social status than the one you really have. You ignored my statement and referred to a past incident were i wore used shoes; this is a moronic shame tactic that reflects your mentality, and if anything, you are living up to the stereotype of your Naija people's dem. To wear used shoes is a crime in the eyes of the aspirational Nigerian. He has been indoctrinated, from birth, with subliminal messages that venerate materialism, consumption, brands, wealth signifiers lol. ya thick donkey fuck There is no reason for a university student to be flaunting balenciagas and the rest of it. If anything, all these little kids copping all these flashy garms with student loans should take heed from someone like myself.

Depop, wavey garms, sneakerheaduk etc, but thats irrelevant anyway... The point is ur a thick mong. And why would I need to lie about the posh kids thing u cringeworthy c*nt as if its even an achievement? Wtf

Afro U clearly are acknowledging the truth in my comment. Hence your inability to challenge my initial assertion about west Aff culture? So instead you choose to refer to used shoes coz you are a natural born mong lol #thick

Bro you are thick as fuck. Its so mad. Let me clarify for your boneheaded self, 1 time; I only jumped on the used shoes wave when I went 6th form and started chilling with posh kids who were literally born with a silver spoon in their mouth but they were wearing charity shop clothes. My boy from schools parents are on the Rich List of England and the kid used to wear 2 year old Levis. Meanwhile when I was a secondary school surrounded by council estate kids is when I was worried about designer brands and the rest of it. 6th form made me much less materialistic You are too boneheaded to intelligently come at me so you refer to used shoes as if that's even really a big deal in the grand scheme of things? So fucking what I bought used shoes when I was at University? I had a big student loan in my bank at the time, I could have done what idiots do and buy some balenciagas and show off what my student loan bought me on instagram and socials? I wish when people on here disagreed with me they could come with intelligent refutations not this same repetitive nonsense. That is expecting too much from the fuckwits on here.

People on here just neg me when they get emotional. I am never refuted intelligently that’s a fact. Told u before tho idon’t wanna debate u faggot boy n ur still quoting me why? Go suck ya mudda 1 time

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If young black people didn't look up to rappers so much, and if black culture devoted half as much energy to politics as it does to religion, sports and music, maybe we might have more individuals to draw on in these situations; instead of just Akala always pushing his cosy left wing ideas that sound nice but dont always match the blatant reality.

Piers always gets awkward when people put phone hacking and iraq question to him. Someone could even prep Giggs before interview about what to reply to Piers and when