TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I was being ignorant, like you. Whether you win, lose or draw, it doesn't make you more loyal. The Derby away supporters aren't more loyal than the Man United or Chelsea away fans IMO... You all travel & you all spend money to SUPPORT. None of us know the score before the game, thats part of the thrill...I dont need to lie about the amount of games I go too. I been to two games this year, and have tickets to another 5 games on my various cards.Oh & I dont know exactly but its not much either way...Yeah Arsenal are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I was being ignorant, like you. Whether you win, lose or draw, it doesn't make you more loyal. The Derby away supporters aren't more loyal than the Man United or Chelsea away fans IMO... You all travel & you all spend money to SUPPORT. None of us know the score before the game, thats part of the thrill...I dont need to lie about the amount of games I go too. I been to two games this year, and have tickets to another 5 games on my various cards.Oh & I dont know exactly but its not much either way...Yeah Arsenal are the best.Thats the thing though, do you arsenal fans "all travel" as you put it?Like i said to someone earlier, when was the last time you sold out an away allocation north on Manchester? And its not like you even have an excuse, because i always hear you play the best football in Europe and have been a consistently good to very good team in the last 10 years.Although i'm not asking you to, but at least put your hand up and say to Spurs fans fair enough, when it comes to our away support in particular, travelling miles up north to villages in the middle of nowhere, while your team are sitting in the relegation zone struggling....that is loyalty, whichever way you look at it. Its what defines you IMO as a football fan or supporter.Would a fair amount of arsenal fans do all that travelling and spending, seeing your team go through the sh*t, year after year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Arsenal fans, you know you wont win the league, so make the most of the top while you can, you will crash and burn early 2008.You can all sit at home, watching the scores come through on bbc videprinter and call yourselfs 'supporters', laughing at Spurs, come on wherever, "spuds this, spuds that, lol at Tottenham, lol at Jol"Yet when i travel hundreds of miles to see my team get consistently beat up north, you lot think you can chat sh*t to me about SUPPORTING a team, yeah, f*ck off.....There is one arsenal fan that travels that i know of on this board, and he doesnt even post in the sports room.You lot are pathetic.Going to the Sevilla game away, seen. I'm a supporter as well as a fan, so dead that argument anyways.Whether I watch at home or at the emirates, Arsenal WIN. What do spurs do? Seen.Whats pathetic is spending the money you have and already being out of contention for a champions league spot.Telling us where we will finish whilst being surrounded by teams who get battered 5-0 on a regs is even more pathetic than anything else that comes out of your mouth.JAM!Fact is everyone on the forum was gunnin us saying where we will finish this season, and so far we're telling you "shut your mout". Top spot. Let us enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'm suppose to be going West Ham game, it will be my first away game in years. I'll go Pompey away over Christmas too, but for the most part I dont go to away games, I'm pushing myself this year more than ever.The away games always sell out from what I see, but for the record Prague & Sevilla are currently sold out... Bucharest isn't & nor is Liverpool.I give props to anyone that regularly spends money to go football cos it aint cheap. I dont think it displays more loyalty tho.I can't comment on the sh*t, but I'd hope so, our fans for the last two years have known we going to get beat up North but they still go in thousands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Come off the fans arguement, and lets talk about what matters, POINTS. We dropped 2. Scrap that, LEHMANN dropped 2.Spurs have dropped how many? Jols gonna be signing on real soon, fat bastard![DAMIEN MARLEY]SEKKLE![DAMIEN MARLEY] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I give props to anyone that regularly spends money to go football cos it aint cheap. I dont think it displays more loyalty tho.So say, there is one boy are cheering from his house, watching it on the internet, struggles to get to 2 home games a season. And has seen his team be generally successful for the last decade.And then theres this other bloke, goes to the majority of home games, travels around Europe, travels across England. Paying thousands a year, seeing his team fail pretty much every year in some fashion for the last decade and has had very little to cheer about.You wouldnt see person no.2 the more loyal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Arsenal fans, you know you wont win the league, so make the most of the top while you can, you will crash and burn early 2008.You can all sit at home, watching the scores come through on bbc videprinter and call yourselfs 'supporters', laughing at Spurs, come on wherever, "spuds this, spuds that, lol at Tottenham, lol at Jol"Yet when i travel hundreds of miles to see my team get consistently beat up north, you lot think you can chat sh*t to me about SUPPORTING a team, yeah, f*ck off.....There is one arsenal fan that travels that i know of on this board, and he doesnt even post in the sports room.You lot are pathetic.Going to the Sevilla game away, seen. I'm a supporter as well as a fan, so dead that argument anyways.Whether I watch at home or at the emirates, Arsenal WIN. What do spurs do? Seen.Whats pathetic is spending the money you have and already being out of contention for a champions league spot.Telling us where we will finish whilst being surrounded by teams who get battered 5-0 on a regs is even more pathetic than anything else that comes out of your mouth.JAM!Fact is everyone on the forum was gunnin us saying where we will finish this season, and so far we're telling you "shut your mout". Top spot. Let us enjoy it. There has been 7 games played.Shut the f*ck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Jr. Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I give props to anyone that regularly spends money to go football cos it aint cheap. I dont think it displays more loyalty tho.So say, there is one boy are cheering from his house, watching it on the internet, struggles to get to 2 home games a season. And has seen his team be generally successful for the last decade.And then theres this other bloke, goes to the majority of home games, travels around Europe, travels across England. Paying thousands a year, seeing his team fail pretty much every year in some fashion for the last decade and has had very little to cheer about.You wouldnt see person no.2 the more loyal?Some people cant afford itdoesnt make them any less of a fan imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I give props to anyone that regularly spends money to go football cos it aint cheap. I dont think it displays more loyalty tho.So say, there is one boy are cheering from his house, watching it on the internet, struggles to get to 2 home games a season. And has seen his team be generally successful for the last decade.And then theres this other bloke, goes to the majority of home games, travels around Europe, travels across England. Paying thousands a year, seeing his team fail pretty much every year in some fashion for the last decade and has had very little to cheer about.You wouldnt see person no.2 the more loyal?Some people cant afford itdoesnt make them any less of a fan imoFair enough, but even so, person no.2 is more loyal though, no?I am a student, and along with rent, bills, tuition fees and so on, i spend all my money on football, some months i have been left with no food, and havent been able to pay my rent because i went to see Spurs away somewhere in the middle of England, call me stupid, maybe, but football is based on passion, you cant help it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Fargas Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 If you are that rich spend it then.....?!If we were around the relegation zone then i would agree with this commenthowever Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS1 Arsenal 6 4 0 0 11 2 1 1 0 4 2 11 162 Man Utd 7 3 1 0 4 0 1 1 1 2 2 4 143 Man City 7 3 0 0 3 0 1 1 2 5 5 3 134 Liverpool 6 1 2 0 7 1 2 1 0 4 1 9 125 Newcastle 6 2 1 0 4 1 1 1 1 5 4 4 116 Chelsea 7 2 1 0 4 2 1 1 2 3 6 -1 117 West Ham 6 1 1 1 4 3 2 0 1 5 3 3 108 Aston Villa 6 3 0 1 7 3 0 1 1 0 1 3 109 Everton 7 1 1 1 3 3 2 0 2 5 5 0 1010 Blackburn 6 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 0 3 2 1 911 Portsmouth 7 1 2 0 4 2 1 1 2 4 6 0 912 Wigan 7 2 1 0 5 1 0 1 3 3 6 1 813 Middlesbrough 7 1 2 1 7 6 1 0 2 2 5 -2 814 Birmingham 7 1 1 1 3 3 1 1 2 4 6 -2 815 Sunderland 7 2 0 1 3 3 0 2 2 4 8 -4 816 Reading 7 2 0 2 4 6 0 1 2 1 5 -6 717 Fulham 7 1 2 1 9 9 0 1 2 3 5 -2 618 Tottenham 7 1 0 2 6 6 0 2 2 4 6 -2 519 Bolton 7 1 1 2 6 6 0 0 3 2 6 -4 420 Derby 7 1 1 1 4 4 0 0 4 0 16 -16 4topic ended arsenals super kids>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I know what your saying Rsonist but I dont think that can be used as a indication of loyalty.Some man like to go football and will fight to death in the "name" of their club, does that make them more loyal? Cos to me it makes them more stupid than loyal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Guess its hard to define, what makes you loyal and what makes you a fan, supporter or whatever. Opinions will vary all over.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I think the point I'm trying to say is a family friend of mine when he was younger, he lived for football, every penny he had went on going to football games, living in London he followed Manchester United throughtout UK & Europe. More so than ANY fan I've ever known still to this date.Years later with him earning more money, he doesnt go to any games and he now lives much closer to Manchester. Granted he got new responsibilities in life but he doesnt even make time, but yes he is still as loyal to Man Utd as a fan for definate, still has the same passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Is a fan in club level a more loyal fan than me cos he sits at club level and I sit upper tier?Is the man sitting next to be a more loyal fan than me cos he buys a programme, club magazine, drink b4 the game and pie & pint at half time as opposed to just my programme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ok, ok, to be a supporter would you say, you would need to at least watch your team play once, be it home or away, every season?See this brings us to the, supporter or fan argument, do you "support" your club, or do you just follow your club ie. a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 It is a good thing to see your club BUT I know people that have never been to Anfield that are WAAAAY more loyal than Season ticket holders.Although being amongst other fans watching your team gives you a special bond one that you can't get from MOTD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Provided you live in this country IMO yes.However I'm open minded enough to say from the age of 18 to your present age its acceptable if you average one game a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 It is a good thing to see your club BUT I know people that have never been to Anfield that are WAAAAY more loyal than Season ticket holders.Doubt it, isnt that a oxymoron?! I think I know why you think that tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 It is a good thing to see your club BUT I know people that have never been to Anfield that are WAAAAY more loyal than Season ticket holders.Doubt it, isnt that a oxymoron?! I think I know why you think that tho...Don't try it I have been to Anfield bare times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 WHY THE f*ck DOES EVERYONE THINKING I'M SENDING!I know some fans that get so disappointed that there regularly say sh*t like "I dunno why I bother with this sh*t, I just renewed cos it gets me away from the wife"Then your have fans who list countless excuses "cant get tickets" "too far" "waiting list too long" for not going or the ones that really appreciate the few games they go to, but more time would be saying the same sh*t once the nolvety wears off on their own season ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ticket prices are a pisstakeAlthough I could cheat the system by attending sh*t champions league games such as Toulouse and get a ticket for Porto at home.It is a minor though my uncle gets them as he is in a higher priority list than me and I pay him to get me tickets and other times I got in with a child ticket.If only the coach fares where less then boy I would attend 95% of matchesAround £20 on transport and around 20-35 depending on the gameMore time I borrow money of my mum and save up my EMA and use money I get from work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Its Me Bitches Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 yeah arsenal is making that moneythey aint legitly richest clubmaybe 15thbut they make the most money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roskie_07 Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 arsenal fans don't get happy...your still in debt like United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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