L Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 At the moment all i do is lat pull down, that seated pullin thing (like a rowing machine) the lean back lower back ting and shoulder press (if you can consider that a back exercise).. What else is there for me to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpent Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 i cant make topics so sorry for intruding in urs but ive been reading a few topics an green tea keeps coming up, wot is green tea for,well wot are the advantages of taking it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 deadlitsrowspullups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 i cant make topics so sorry for intruding in urs but ive been reading a few topics an green tea keeps coming up, wot is green tea for,well wot are the advantages of taking it?I take green tea, its a fat burner. Very good, but also gives other benefits. Its helped me lose more fat, so its part of my daily routine now.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_teahttp://chinesefood.about.com/library/weekly/aa011400a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 deadlitsrowspullupsYep, was my back day yesterday. Done all ofd those and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 How is doing pull ups any different from doing lat pull down (apart from being stuck with one weight)..What are rows?I've never done deadlifts, i'm reading up on em, what weight should i start on? (To give an idea of my back strength i lift about 70kg on the lat pull down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cipher Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Doing back streatches strengthens your back.Also, for lower back, thenn SITUPS/CRUNCHES do it, strong abs=strong back & good posture.btw, if you cant make topics just..pm me n ill do it for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcass Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 DeadliftBarbell rowsPullups>lat pulldown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpent Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Doing back streatches strengthens your back.Also, for lower back, thenn SITUPS/CRUNCHES do it, strong abs=strong back & good posture.btw, if you cant make topics just..pm me n ill do it for you...i cant pm either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 pull ups are far better than pull downs for back. anythign involving the use of your bodyweight in isolation is good.they are better bcos it is unassisted, the pulldown is a machine helping you, so if you pull down 70kg it takes off about 20% of real effort. so you're obvisouly doing more work if you can pull 75kg up, if thats your weight for example. start low with Deadlifts go as high as you can. its good to ask someoen to show you, cos it can be brutal if you get injured. all i do r weighted pullups, deadlifts and rows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Ok i tried pull ups, they were easier than pull downs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcass Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Ok i tried pull ups, they were easier than pull downs..Wide grip pull downs might easy if you weight 5 stone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I weigh about 12 stoneOn the pull down i start on 72.5kg and go up to 80kg (thats more than 12 stone aint it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcass Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I weigh about 12 stoneOn the pull down i start on 72.5kg and go up to 80kg (thats more than 12 stone aint it?)It' not the same tho as the pull down is cable/machine you need to buy a belt so you can add more weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 That sounds long when i can jus buss an extra 10kg on the lat pulldown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 How is doing pull ups any different from doing lat pull down (apart from being stuck with one weight)..What are rows?I've never done deadlifts, i'm reading up on em, what weight should i start on? (To give an idea of my back strength i lift about 70kg on the lat pull down)RowsYou can have seated rows with the cable machine with different handles, the close smaller handles work your lower back, wider does upperYou can bent over rows aswell, where you bend over and pull the BB to your waist, it works ur upper back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 That sounds long when i can jus buss an extra 10kg on the lat pulldownpull downs can never be better than pull ups. its not about how heavy your lifting, its about how isolated the muscles involved are. if you can easily pull yourself up with a WIDE grip for 10-15 reps, and 4 sets then add 10kg and see the difference. the isolation of the back muscles in pullups sh*t over pulldowns anyday, wether your pulling 6tonnes! which u aint.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 pullups>>>>>>>>>>pulldowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerFace Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Deadlifts>>>>>>any other exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 ok i didn't know that, i been doing pull ups as a warm up starting exercise and then pull downs as the main exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcass Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Deadlifts>>>>>>any other exercise.Some would say the Squat>Deadlift i like both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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