Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 if someone murdered a family i would be happier knowing they bin thrown in a pit, fed just enough to keep them alive and totured for the rest of their life.....if im suffering a lifetime of loss so should they yeh and so would i but most times you have to weight a few years before your date of execusion comes up, so knoing that evey day the person who did that to me or my family , is 1 day closer to dying would make me happy, imagin the torture of not knowing what day it will be, could be anyday!then the torture of every day being a step closer to it when u get the date! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_kent Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 plus castration should b brought in 4 pedofiles and rapistes.. i think they do it in sum states in the US.yea agreed i think capital punishment should be for extreem cases like mass murderes etc....they dont deserve life ....I DECIDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlastboss Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 if someone murdered a family i would be happier knowing they bin thrown in a pit, fed just enough to keep them alive and totured for the rest of their life.....if im suffering a lifetime of loss so should they yeh and so would i but most times you have to weight a few years before your date of execusion comes up, so knoing that evey day the person who did that to me or my family , is 1 day closer to dying would make me happy, imagin the torture of not knowing what day it will be, could be anyday!then the torture of every day being a step closer to it when u get the date!ima go gym later and do sum waits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 plus castration should b brought in 4 pedofiles and rapistes.. i think they do it in sum states in the US.i agree with thatWhat about people who aren't 100% guilty, you imbecile!It happens.Been charged, gone pen, done bird, then been found not guilty 15 years later.yeh and when have they been found not guilty...15 years later.... but now!!!15 years ago they didnt have this technology!its unlikly that in 15 years there will be many people found not guilty because our technology is really good for helping solve crimes right now! and can only get better= less and less people wrongly convicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlastboss Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 plus castration should b brought in 4 pedofiles and rapistes.. i think they do it in sum states in the US.they have sum injection that stops testosterone production or summin and stops sexual urges lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 plus castration should b brought in 4 pedofiles and rapistes.. i think they do it in sum states in the US.they have sum injection that stops testosterone production or summin and stops sexual urges lolshould be given to all murders commited for sexual gratification and all rapist and pedo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I think some people would be getting off lightly with the death penalty. certain criminals need to be mentally tortured for the rest of their days to make sure that every last second they are alive they are wishing they were dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Jr. Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 What about people who aren't 100% guilty, you imbecile!It happens.Been charged, gone pen, done bird, then been found not guilty 15 years later.Abit of common sense in this thread is all that is needed.Cheers Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Boy Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimes, of for people that wasnt 100% guilty but was charged.only serious crimes, and people who are no doubt guilty.Technology does not illiminate this flaw.All it does is clarify wether something is present or not.For example if I have a pair of leather gloves on, I shake your hand then shake another persons and murder them your DNA will be on their hand when you havent come into contact with them.If you were convicted in a court of law would the presence of forensic evidence make you 110% guilty?AlsoAny trial involving a jury cannot be 100% accurate as human error is involved in the judgement some people on jury duty dont even know what their job is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Boy Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Ontop of thatPeople who are in favour of the death penalty tell me would you see it as a minor if your mum got the death penalty for a crime you know she didnt commit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Eric Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimesYou don't say!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimes, of for people that wasnt 100% guilty but was charged.only serious crimes, and people who are no doubt guilty.Technology does not illiminate this flaw.All it does is clarify wether something is present or not.For example if I have a pair of leather gloves on, I shake your hand then shake another persons and murder them your DNA will be on their hand when you havent come into contact with them.If you were convicted in a court of law would the presence of forensic evidence make you 110% guilty?AlsoAny trial involving a jury cannot be 100% accurate as human error is involvent in the judgement some people on jury duty dont even know what their job is.BUT theres different types of ways my dna could be on the person you murdered, and that sipmly could prove it wasnt me who killed them.watch some real murder case file programs, you will find out that just because my dna is on them doesnt mean i did it. i also culd have seen them that day n touched them dont mean i killed them tho.... conviction also comes down to more then just dna.Ontop of thatPeople who are in favour of the death penalty tell me would you see it as a minor if your mum got the death penalty for a crime you know she didnt commit?obv if i KNOW she is innocent that i will do everything in my power to see she didnt get the penalty.and would make sure her case was represented correctly and show the jury she didnt do it!if you innocent, you can only show and prove innocents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundam Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Nope.People who are 100 % guilty and killed a person for no reason, the family of the vitcim should have the right to have 4 hours in a room with the killer. Whatever happens in that room, stays in the room, including the dead body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimesYou don't say!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlastboss Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Nope.People who are 100 % guilty and killed a person for no reason, the family of the vitcim should have the right to have 4 hours in a room with the killer. Whatever happens in that room, stays in the room, including the dead body.lol they can have a picnic with a spot of tea and biscuits and sum cucumber sarnies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Nope.People who are 100 % guilty and killed a person for no reason, the family of the vitcim should have the right to have 4 hours in a room with the killer. Whatever happens in that room, stays in the room, including the dead body.good idea.... theres a few people who id love to have in a room like that so they could suffer painfully and have no consiquences on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Boy Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimes, of for people that wasnt 100% guilty but was charged.only serious crimes, and people who are no doubt guilty.Technology does not illiminate this flaw.All it does is clarify wether something is present or not.For example if I have a pair of leather gloves on, I shake your hand then shake another persons and murder them your DNA will be on their hand when you havent come into contact with them.If you were convicted in a court of law would the presence of forensic evidence make you 110% guilty?AlsoAny trial involving a jury cannot be 100% accurate as human error is involvent in the judgement some people on jury duty dont even know what their job is.BUT theres different types of ways my dna could be on the person you murdered, and that sipmly could prove it wasnt me who killed them.watch some real murder case file programs, you will find out that just because my dna is on them doesnt mean i did it. i also culd have seen them that day n touched them dont mean i killed them tho.... conviction also comes down to more then just dna.Ontop of thatPeople who are in favour of the death penalty tell me would you see it as a minor if your mum got the death penalty for a crime you know she didnt commit?obv if i KNOW she is innocent that i will do everything in my power to see she didnt get the penalty.and would make sure her case was represented correctly and show the jury she didnt do it!if you innocent, you can only show and prove innocents.Just tell me how technology makes it 110% because you've waffled alot and still havent made it clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mz Boyage Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Just tell me how technology makes it 110% because you've waffled alot and still havent made it clear.theres computers what can test the type of wood somthing is, where a grain of soil comes from all kinda stuff like that... yo say you was in manchester but the soil in the grooves of you car can prove you was in liverpool...sh*t like that init.like 50 years ago a peice of soil was just soil, now they kno were its found what type it is all sorts ,thats damming evidence alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cipher Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Your argument is somewhat flawed.You are saying if someone takes a life, then the law, in return, has the right to take their life.The law should not be about revenge, it should be about the best way to protect the rest of society. As soon as it becomes pergatory, and not reformatory (which it has done) something is wrong.And the thing you have to understand about prinsons/the prison system is, they make the government money, so sometims it is more convinient to have people constantly in & out of prison, then to have them locked up for many years..anyway back to the issue.People should be made to to help in someway as punishment IMO, get all the prisoners and force them to work & build a school or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 My tedium meter has just exploded.I'm considering locking this because frankly, Mz Boyage, you're talking rubbish and aint taking on board peoples opinions that have successfully countered the argument for the death penalty.Now go get me a Chicken Sandwich and some Waffle Fries, for free.*EDIT*f*ck it, I'll reopen it for the time being... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Against It.Once u've killed someone who's innocent you've lost the plot. The law should not be about revenge, it should be about the best way to protect the rest of society. As soon as it becomes pergatory, and not reformatory (which it has done) something is wrong.People should be made to to help in someway as punishment IMO, get all the prisoners and force them to work & build a school or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Onslaught Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 as for innocent people being killed, it would only be handed out to criminals who are 110% guilty, technology eliminates this flaw. my point exactly, it wouldnt be handed out for petty crimes, of for people that wasnt 100% guilty but was charged.only serious crimes, and people who are no doubt guilty.Technology does not illiminate this flaw.All it does is clarify wether something is present or not.For example if I have a pair of leather gloves on, I shake your hand then shake another persons and murder them your DNA will be on their hand when you havent come into contact with them.If you were convicted in a court of law would the presence of forensic evidence make you 110% guilty?AlsoAny trial involving a jury cannot be 100% accurate as human error is involvent in the judgement some people on jury duty dont even know what their job is.BUT theres different types of ways my dna could be on the person you murdered, and that sipmly could prove it wasnt me who killed them.watch some real murder case file programs, you will find out that just because my dna is on them doesnt mean i did it. i also culd have seen them that day n touched them dont mean i killed them tho.... conviction also comes down to more then just dna.Ontop of thatPeople who are in favour of the death penalty tell me would you see it as a minor if your mum got the death penalty for a crime you know she didnt commit?obv if i KNOW she is innocent that i will do everything in my power to see she didnt get the penalty.and would make sure her case was represented correctly and show the jury she didnt do it!if you innocent, you can only show and prove innocents.? Lock this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Sabah Nur Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 btw ms boyage u do no that dna cannot b used in a court of law right?it can b used in questioning which mostly makes ppl admit to itbut legally dna is not 100% proof and is meremly circumstancialmuch alike a lie detector test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryan Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 It's never about the death penatly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_kent Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Your argument is somewhat flawed.You are saying if someone takes a life, then the law, in return, has the right to take their life. YesThe law should not be about revenge, it should be about the best way to protect the rest of society. As soon as it becomes pergatory, and not reformatory (which it has done) something is wrong. Good point but this not always provide sufficient justceAnd the thing you have to understand about prinsons/the prison system is, they make the government money, so sometims it is more convinient to have people constantly in & out of prison, then to have them locked up for many years..anyway back to the issue.People should be made to to help in someway as punishment IMO, get all the prisoners and force them to work & build a school or something. Bun schools built by rapists,poedephiles, murderers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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