The Illuminati Thread.

[Steven]

No its just all you illuminati geezers babble on about the same sh*t.Whenever something happens in the world its a CONSPIRACY THEORYYet whenever Alex Jones who makes a living off selling DVD's to people like you comes up with some silly sh*t then its the new discovery of the century.Form your own opinions girls.

[Steven]

And Im not a fan of rap music full stop. Or grime. Dont know how the f*ck I got here to be honest with you...

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

[Neo]

No its just all you illuminati geezers babble on about the same sh*t.Whenever something happens in the world its a CONSPIRACY THEORYYet whenever Alex Jones who makes a living off selling DVD's to people like you comes up with some silly sh*t then its the new discovery of the century.Form your own opinions girls.

Still, you walked into the thread.WHich was stupid of you in the first place.secondly, lol @ thinking the MAJOR powers in the world woudlnt have something to do with a MAJOR event.Tellin me if someone gets raped in your bed you aint got sh*t to do with it?That quesiton made me laugh.If you want to try to debate then do so, but your just being idiotic..@ Carpe, Shaolin answered for me there.

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

No its just all you illuminati geezers babble on about the same sh*t.Whenever something happens in the world its a CONSPIRACY THEORYYet whenever Alex Jones who makes a living off selling DVD's to people like you comes up with some silly sh*t then its the new discovery of the century.Form your own opinions girls.

thats complete bullshit.alex jones sh*t holds bare truth. I dont trust him fully either but i can see theres evidence in his videos its beyond ignoringReally i can tell you've scratched the surface of this topic, little do u know how deep the layers of the cake go.If you dont wanna take alex jones info on board there about 10,000 real authors many who make up the wise, philosophers, inventors and political positioned men of this world. All who have spoke about it and clearly arent doing it for profits.You've formed to quick an opinion plus u clearly never read 1984 growing up.

[Roots]

I have no time for people who sound like they just walked out of an immortal technique album.

To be honest I don't even like the guy, dunno why. Heard one of his mixtapes, never picked it up again.Mostly listen to grime, indie and kanye.I like to keep this kind of stuff and music separate. If you know what I mean.

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

I have no time for people who sound like they just walked out of an immortal technique album.

To be honest I don't even like the guy, dunno why. Heard one of his mixtapes, never picked it up again.Mostly listen to grime, indie and kanye.I like to keep this kind of stuff and music separate.

lol kanye west over immortal technique your shitting me right....

[Steven]

No its just all you illuminati geezers babble on about the same sh*t.Whenever something happens in the world its a CONSPIRACY THEORYYet whenever Alex Jones who makes a living off selling DVD's to people like you comes up with some silly sh*t then its the new discovery of the century.Form your own opinions girls.

thats complete bullshit.alex jones sh*t holds bare truth. I dont trust him fully either but i can see theres evidence in his videos its beyond ignoringReally i can tell you've scratched the surface of this topic, little do u know how deep the layers of the cake go.If you dont wanna take alex jones info on board there about 10,000 real authors many who make up the wise, philosophers, inventors and political positioned men of this world. All who have spoke about it and clearly arent doing it for profits.You've formed to quick an opinion plus u clearly never read 1984 growing up.

I reckon the government is corrupted and sh*t I just dont believe in all this illuminati bollox why concern yourselves with it you're never gonna do f*ck all about it just post youtube videos and sh*t but the reality is it will all be for nothing I watch prison break if the government want you dead your dead aint no michael scofields round here if they wanna take you out the game then LAWL your out the game.

[Neo]

I have no time for people who sound like they just walked out of an immortal technique album.

To be honest I don't even like the guy, dunno why. Heard one of his mixtapes, never picked it up again.Mostly listen to grime, indie and kanye.I like to keep this kind of stuff and music separate.

lol kanye west over immortal technique your shitting me right....

I think he was just expressing his musical opinion. Many I.T. tracks are not as Easy on the ear as Kanye's.I respect Kanye for the way he speaks out, he does it in a subtle way so it gets heard.Unfortunately in other things he does/presents it acts as giving with one hand and taking with the other..Honestly though roots, go listen to his mixtapes & rev. 1 & 2. especially make sure you listen to 2... now

[Social]

agree with steven u man are some new age travellers

[Carpe_Deum]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

[Steven]

Gonna try tell me some stupid sh*t now like the planet isnt a globe its a cuboid.

[bane]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

i guess if the illuminati never cared about tupacthey never cared about the black panther party either...

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

agree with steven u man are some new age travellers

the same guy who turned to abuse instead of bringing information to the religion topic trying to have an opinion on this sh*t?go let someone tell u what to believe.

[Steven]

agree with steven u man are some new age travellers

the same guy who turned to abuse instead of bringing information to the religion topic trying to have an opinion on this sh*t?go let someone tell u what to believe.

Go let google search engine tell you what to believe

[Carpe_Deum]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

i guess if the illuminati never cared about tupacthey never cared about the black panther party either...

thats for you to prove though, not me to worry about.

[bane]

agree with steven u man are some new age travellers

the same guy who turned to abuse instead of bringing information to the religion topic trying to have an opinion on this sh*t?go let someone tell u what to believe.

Go let google search engine tell you what to believe

andbooksrapperstv showsrespected people in the worldeveryday lifemoviesdocumentariesdead people and why they was killedpeople who made out to be mwadand loads of other sources of information...so seckle ur crusty vasaline deprived gums

[NORA BATTY]

I think the main problem is alot of people dont know how to research or seperate truth from fiction n are just used to jotting things down as truth straight away school great example no research done just pure jot it down as gospel n revise it for your test, if you repeat the answer accordingly to how they have the answer written down you pass n your an A * student which is absulote bollocks.

but whose choice is it to do that? OUR choice.did you goto school and do what you just said? well then.we are not forced to do anything. If you want to learn more its upto us but if you want to pass you have to answer the questions as they want you to.

lol you clearly have no idea, you are FORCED to go to school.If you try not to nowadays your parents can be imprisoned and it just doesnt happen there use to be a loophole to get out of school n to get educated from home but thats starting to not work. Everyone goes school for 2 reasons one because there made to, 2 because your parents have gone through it and been brainwashed to believe its what u need for a great life in this world. The point is the word education is total bullshit, you gain no education from being told loads of information n just told to repeat it, that is a form of brainwashing repetition. But what is real education is actively using your mind, using each part of it to understand the realness.School doesnt get people anywhere, n yeah i went through school. But i own 2 business's. So i assure you school got me no where. It just limited me just like John lennon said all through his life.

Look at kids being forced to goto school. Look at how they end up. Either expelled or coming out with only a few gcses.What would happen if they didn't goto school for f**ks sake they would be idiots.Whether you succeed or fail is upto YOU. You need to goto school as a prerequisite to goto university.the fact is it would be a miracle to get kids to ''Repeat something until you remember it because its gone through your subconcious mind so many times.'' Yet they can hardly manage to even do that thesedays let alone think independently. Stop blaming your own lack of success on others if school didnt get you to university and beyond that is you own fault but if you succeeded without it good for you. Just be clear about what youre saying.

YOU have been brainwashed to read and write english. Otherwise you wouldnt be typing here. So stop complaining.

a language is not a belief. It is a form of communication.Sounds like your trying to hang on for dear life. Truths hitting barriers.

it is more than that. It is a form of logic, and a limited one at that.

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

lol you really are a foolish person i dont dismiss you i dismiss things like "the illuminati dont giva f*ck about tupac".Anyone who can sell records to millions of people they care about. Thats why john lennons dead and bob marley.But if u wanna walk around thinking theres no links n connections in life, feel free. Ive watched n read hundreds of things. I just have a general interest n curiosity into reality plus i know the knowledge benefited me because ive used it to earn nicely.1984 would show u simply how a world predicted to come into play in the 1930's has actually happened n taken place almost identically to how he stated.The guy who wrote the book was an MP.so keep dismissing all you like. Ill just give u breeze cause your another human being not capable of using there mind to seek truth.No loss on my behalf.

[bane]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

i guess if the illuminati never cared about tupacthey never cared about the black panther party either...

thats for you to prove though, not me to worry about.

lol i dont need to waste ma tym proving sh*t to u stillu dont carei aint gonna try force nuffin on ugo out on road n get stopped or searched or suttin or go pay loads of taxes an continue to be a slave in the system

[SHAOLIN_SINZ]

I think the main problem is alot of people dont know how to research or seperate truth from fiction n are just used to jotting things down as truth straight away school great example no research done just pure jot it down as gospel n revise it for your test, if you repeat the answer accordingly to how they have the answer written down you pass n your an A * student which is absulote bollocks.

but whose choice is it to do that? OUR choice.did you goto school and do what you just said? well then.we are not forced to do anything. If you want to learn more its upto us but if you want to pass you have to answer the questions as they want you to.

lol you clearly have no idea, you are FORCED to go to school.If you try not to nowadays your parents can be imprisoned and it just doesnt happen there use to be a loophole to get out of school n to get educated from home but thats starting to not work. Everyone goes school for 2 reasons one because there made to, 2 because your parents have gone through it and been brainwashed to believe its what u need for a great life in this world. The point is the word education is total bullshit, you gain no education from being told loads of information n just told to repeat it, that is a form of brainwashing repetition. But what is real education is actively using your mind, using each part of it to understand the realness.School doesnt get people anywhere, n yeah i went through school. But i own 2 business's. So i assure you school got me no where. It just limited me just like John lennon said all through his life.

Look at kids being forced to goto school. Look at how they end up. Either expelled or coming out with only a few gcses.What would happen if they didn't goto school for f**ks sake they would be idiots.Whether you succeed or fail is upto YOU. You need to goto school as a prerequisite to goto university.the fact is it would be a miracle to get kids to ''Repeat something until you remember it because its gone through your subconcious mind so many times.'' Yet they can hardly manage to even do that thesedays let alone think independently. Stop blaming your own lack of success on others if school didnt get you to university and beyond that is you own fault but if you succeeded without it good for you. Just be clear about what youre saying.

YOU have been brainwashed to read and write english. Otherwise you wouldnt be typing here. So stop complaining.

a language is not a belief. It is a form of communication.Sounds like your trying to hang on for dear life. Truths hitting barriers.

it is more than that. It is a form of logic, and a limited one at that.

the only people who get personal are morons. You know nothing about me or what i make so lets that leave that out of the discussion on school.GCSE's get you no where im 19, n i earn more than most 25 year olds still relying on there A levels, uni degrees and GCSE's.Pieces of paper are nothing compared to experience.The point is anyway, education is not education it is merely a form of limited knowledge to form and prepare minds ready to be 9-5 slaves.If you cant work out the template go back to sleep go work your 9-5 n never ask another question in your life.But school will never be anything different than a way to mould minds into a way of thinking.your right alot of kids do fail because they think its bollocks like i did, and now im at the age with the knowledge to know why.Even einstien said schools are not education at school they teach u einstien material n notoriously is seen as a very very clever man.So who you trusting? Your school teacher whose just been through the same education bullshit as you, brainwashed to the core.A politician who earns off you going school n is also been brainwashed to the point there now a politician....and no language is a form of communication. Logic is a part of your mind.oh n lol @ saying i wanted to go uni, you can keep your uni loan debt mate paying it off till your 25, im already earning nicely.

[NORA BATTY]

a language is not a belief. It is a form of communication.Sounds like your trying to hang on for dear life. Truths hitting barriers.

language is a way of thinking. Tell me what goes through your mind when youre trying to solve or even understand the problems here http://topologicalmusings.wordpress.com/Tell me whether language fails to help you or not.Language is the real form of brainwashing and you homie have been brainwashed to read and write 'it'.

[Carpe_Deum]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

i guess if the illuminati never cared about tupacthey never cared about the black panther party either...

thats for you to prove though, not me to worry about.

lol i dont need to waste ma tym proving sh*t to u stillu dont carei aint gonna try force nuffin on ugo out on road n get stopped or searched or suttin or go pay loads of taxes an continue to be a slave in the system

of course, YOU cannot be stopped and will not pay tax cos ur 'enlightened'. and shaolin, youve watched more than youve read.. but its cool.

[Steven]

agree with steven u man are some new age travellers

the same guy who turned to abuse instead of bringing information to the religion topic trying to have an opinion on this sh*t?go let someone tell u what to believe.

Go let google search engine tell you what to believe

andbooksrapperstv showsrespected people in the worldeveryday lifemoviesdocumentariesdead people and why they was killedpeople who made out to be mwadand loads of other sources of information...so seckle ur crusty vasaline deprived gums

At that listI hope there is an illuminati government just so they'll kill this little punk.

[bane]

a thread is being discussed about the illuminati, roots posts stuff relating to the thread and then posts videos, 2 videos were talking directly about the NWO etc... tupac was talking about????????????????????????

lol @ trying to convey that is what you first said when you have completely changed the issueYou did not say "lol @ quoting THAT tupac speech", and i still see it was relevant as he was talking about making change but meh.You said LOL @ QUOTING 2PACVery different to what you just tried to suggest.As if nothign 2pac said was important or that the man himself was a joke, or that the fact he became a dangerous figure with the public behind him & a movement in process had nothing to do with the Illuminati?come onyour game is silly.

i said lol @ quoting tupac cos i watched the video, and found nothing that seemed relevant to the topic. still he's been mentioned b4 too many times like some che guevera which i think is nonsense,he had the public behind him cos he was a popular artist, he had problems and tribulations alot of black america had in common, so yes i think his 'movement' had nothing to do with the illuminati,

Both were against the illuminati who are the elite.just because they dont pipe on about it does not mean there not rebels of society.The fact is che guevara done what was needed a symbol n yeah his pal castro f*cked him over n sold out to the westerners but that sh*t happens his image has gone down in history for the wrong reasons n right.tupacs album was called killuminati theres no denying it its pure fact. So instantly that tells you he knows about the illuminati and wants them removed.These people were in the public scene u cant just walk around on commercial tv talking about the illuiminati u wont get shown the light of day n probably will be killed or just generally loose your job very quickly. Just a fact of life.Che guevara was against the elite cause they controlled cuba n all the surrounding countries forcing it into poverty.

lol@ the illuminati giving a f*ck about tupac, you're lost. youve watched david icke videos, the zeitgeist, and read 1984, AND?thing is, i will always dismiss you as much as you will dismiss me, so this never ends.

i guess if the illuminati never cared about tupacthey never cared about the black panther party either...

thats for you to prove though, not me to worry about.

lol i dont need to waste ma tym proving sh*t to u stillu dont carei aint gonna try force nuffin on ugo out on road n get stopped or searched or suttin or go pay loads of taxes an continue to be a slave in the system

of course, YOU cannot be stopped and will not pay tax cos ur 'enlightened'. and shaolin, youve watched more than youve read.. but its cool.

Im jus pointing out ur acting lyk a bitch.