The Official Manchester United Thread

[DRC]

Diouf sold to Hannover 96

[FANTA]

you gotta question the wisdom of throwing De Gea into a away cup game against Liverpool...

SAF sometimes....jesus

[Mame Biram Diouf]

While admitting Cleverley is 'nowhere near the first team at the moment', Ferguson believes he is making considerable progress in his bid to recover from ankle ligament damage sustained in October.

The United boss told the club's official website: "Cleverley is doing a lot of running. He's nowhere near the first team at the moment but he's doing a lot of running.

"He'll be a terrific boost. It will be great to get the boy back because I think he's special.

"I expect (Young) to start training in the middle of the week, so he's on his way back. Cleverley is two weeks behind that.

"Anderson will be ready this week, too. He'll start training with us on Monday or Tuesday and then it gives me a collection of midfield players that should cope with anything that happens in the run-in.

"Michael Carrick's form has been unbelievable - he's been playing fantastic - and we'll also have Giggs, Scholes, Cleverley and Anderson, so that's a great group of midfield players that will definitely help us."

[CrillzCity]

It's a myth dat this Man Utd team isn't as good as previous teams as far as attacking quality cos the likes of Nani, Rooney, Valencia, Young, Hernandz, Wellbeck, Berbatov, Cleverly, etc on form are just as good as Beckham, Cantona, Cole, Yorke, Giggs etc.

It's just the other teams like Tottenham, Man City have emerged along with the usual suspects Chelsea, Asenal, Liverpool so the league is alot harder to win now where as in the 90's who reallly could win the league apart from Man Utd? Arsenal where the only realistic contenders with Man Utd and in the mid 200's Chelsea were the only realistic challangers to Man Utd.

Rooney>>>>>Yorke/Cantona (similar players but Rooney just better in all departments)

Nani>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Beckham (basically Nani can do everything Becks could but actually dribble and go past players and actually has pace and natural skill but like Beckham Nani has great Delivery, great shooting technique)

Young/Valencia>>>>>>>Giggs (in his prime Giggs crossing/delivery was inoconsitant where as Young and Valencias crossing/delivery/technique always been good)

Phil Jones>>>>>>>>>>Keane (much better Footballer in the holding role than Keane just as dynamic, defensivley good but more compusure, pace and talent on the ball)

[Benicio del Toney]

I was gonna quote you but I didn't wana waste my time.

lol @ that whole post.

[CrillzCity]

I was gonna quote you but I didn't wana waste my time.

lol @ that whole post.

It's all opinion but for example people can't use the Nani is inconsistant argument anyone for 3 seasons he has been consistant in performance, assists and goals and the stats show he has the most assists this season and has added more goals to his game at the end of the day Nani can do everything Beckham could but can do what Beckham couldn't as well that is a fact.

[Benicio del Toney]

Lemme ask, how old r u bro?

[Kompressor]

The man is on some one man wind-up!!

Regardless of which set of players you think are better on paper is irrelevant, as this game isn't just about putting 11 great players together and seeing what happens. It's about how those 11 interact, gel, and help each other perform,

Welbeck and Cleverly seem to have a excellent understanding of each others game, which is promising going forward,

To think Rooney is better than both Yorke and Cantona in ALL departments tells me that your birth certificate says you were born circa 1995/96 and so definitely don't remember Cantona and probably don't remember Yorke,

Won't touch the Jones >>> Keane comment as I've realised that you've probably been hacked at this point.

[Michel Kane]

Jones better than Keane.

OH MY f*ck*ng WORD.

[Haze-e]

That whole post... Smh...

[Horatio Caine]

It's a myth dat this Man Utd team isn't as good as previous teams as far as attacking quality cos the likes of Nani, Rooney, Valencia, Young, Hernandz, Wellbeck, Berbatov, Cleverly, etc on form are just as good as Beckham, Cantona, Cole, Yorke, Giggs etc.

It's just the other teams like Tottenham, Man City have emerged along with the usual suspects Chelsea, Asenal, Liverpool so the league is alot harder to win now where as in the 90's who reallly could win the league apart from Man Utd? Arsenal where the only realistic contenders with Man Utd and in the mid 200's Chelsea were the only realistic challangers to Man Utd.

Rooney>>>>>Yorke/Cantona (similar players but Rooney just better in all departments)

Nani>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Beckham (basically Nani can do everything Becks could but actually dribble and go past players and actually has pace and natural skill but like Beckham Nani has great Delivery, great shooting technique)

Young/Valencia>>>>>>>Giggs (in his prime Giggs crossing/delivery was inoconsitant where as Young and Valencias crossing/delivery/technique always been good)

Phil Jones>>>>>>>>>>Keane (much better Footballer in the holding role than Keane just as dynamic, defensivley good but more compusure, pace and talent on the ball)

fam yorke was apart of the best strikeforce in the league

keanes leadership alone is worth more than jones,right now man united lack a proper leader

nani isnt nowher near giggs

dis united team is weak, when your playing 2 37 year olds in the centre that alone should tell u alot.....

[Yoshie]

Read the post last night and sighed, why even bother replying

[Seydou]

Pmsl. Pmsl. Pmsl.

Man wrote a whole essay you know.

[Guest M12]

Crillzcity is tulse as well.

[TF S4DK]

Morrison off to West Ham...

[whateverinit]

Morrison off to West Ham...

FFS

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Someone on Redcafe made a good point, Fergie had no problem controlling Rooney, Keane, Cantonna and said he could have handled Gazza, so seeing as Fergie said he was our best potential since Scholes came through, why are we just giving up on him like this?

We all know if he goes to London it is very likely he will be a ''what if'' player.

Seems me to we do not have his best interests at heart tbh apparently even a judge said we have not been doing enough for him.

Disgusting how we as fans have been left out in the cold over this and they have let people think the worst of what Ravel is supposedly doing and stopping him from really commenting, because people have being hanging out to dry over GOSSIP

Media just been looking for a new target now Rooney has got a bit older and boring

[D'Angelo from The Wire]Just let the boy be[D'Angelo from The Wire]

Because truth be told, factually what has he done wrong, not speculation actual facts FFS

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Right now hope him and Pogba leave and become world class and dominate us and score against us every game of their career

f*ck*ng disgusting club

Even the whole bringing back Scholes thing, if was these two I would be sick to my stomach, even Larnell Cole and Petrucci.

You think Pepe would bring someone out of retirement? f*ck no

Look how many debuts he has given to the youth, once you blood them in they get better and play with better players etc

But no look how many youngsters we have let go of that should have been given a chance instead we sign sh*t players like Diouf, Obertan, Manucho, Bebe, Ricardo, Bellion, Miller, Kleberson, Djemba, Tosic, Dong, LOVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WERE ON WAGES, FEES AND TRANSFERS

Yet we let Pique, Danny Simpson, Campbell and Rossi with a few more go who could have squad players at least

PISSED OFF MAN

[WhiteTT]

Yh man we are sh*t now

neg me

mags.

[CrillzCity]

Really and truely what more does Nani have to do get the full due credit he deserves? Nani has always been quality him striking the ball from 35 yards and putting in the top corner isn't an occassion thing he been doing that over and over just like him putting in great crosses and setting up assists (the most this season) he been doing that his whole career but just does it more consistantly now for atleast 3 seasons

So explain why Beckham in his prime was better? when Nani does all the same things Beckham done banging in goals from 25 yards into the top corner, setting up goals with great crosses, scoring free kicks etc all the same things Beckham done Nani does but the only diffrence is Nani also has pace, skill and dribbling ability which Beckham never had. Explain why when Beckham fell out with Ferguson that same season he was sold yet a few years ago when Nani critisized Ferguson he still wasn't sold? cos Ferguson knows how vital he is

Dribbling, pace, skill, ball control + end product (shooting technique from distance, crossing/delivery, assists, goal scoring) = Nani

Giggs became a good passer, intelligent player, more end product when he lost his pace and started playing as a Second Striker during his mid 30's when he was a Winger his crossing/delivery was questionable just like it is questined today with the likes of Walcott, Lennon etc not saying they ever are going to touch GIggs but strictly talking about crossing/delivery.

How can Cantona and Yorke be as good as Rooney when Rooney's goal scoring record for Man Utd since he joined is 1 goal every 2 games? and that is predominantly as a Second Striker and how can they be as good as Rooney when Rooney can play as a number 10 (second Striker) but also as a number 9 (Out and out Striker) cantona and Yorke couldn't do that.

[CrillzCity]

Rooney has better shooting technique, more powerfull shot, much more pace, better passing ability, much more strength, better heading ability than Cantona and Yorke Rooney is also a more natural finisher than both hence why Rooney can play both the number 10 and number 9 role. Yorke and Cantona never took Free Kics either where as Rooney has scored many great Free Kicks.

These are facts if anyone doubt's this show all the clips of Cantona and Yorke striking the bal lin the top corner from 30 yards, making pin point 40 yard passes, scoring mad headers, showing strength, holding up the ball? like Rooney does consistantly

[Kompressor]

Whereas I've said from day one that the way the club have dealt with him has been wrong, I.E shielding him from the consequences of his actions,

It's hard to say whether they did or attempted to do enough to "save" him, on my opinion there was probably a lot done, it was probably just done wrongly,

I said last season that a possible cure for the issues he has could be serving a little time incarcerated, (not decades or years) but just enough for him to realise what's in front of him and what the alternative is. Unsurprisingly I was roundly nagged an criticised for saying it,

I'm not happy about any of this and there are a million and one things about the club that piss me off, which is why I walked away in 2005, but in this situation self accountability is everything, Manchester United is a football club, in the business of winning trophies and earning money, :rollseyes:

Not a youth offending organisation in

The business if rehabilitating troubled youth, especially if that youth has already been given a lot of time an effort, (perception of the club)

Another thing that couldn't of helped is the hype surrounding him, "ohh he's the best prospect since Scholes" well no wonder he thinks he's untouchable.

Also there are significant differences between Gazza and Rooney problems and Morrisons. It's not really fair to throw his in with that of Rooney and Gazza's

The lad should've been in a limited way faced some sort of consequences for his actions, that might've focussed his mind abit and given his head a wobble,

I hope the deal falls through and he remains a United player, but to blame the club for having had enough of this walking continuos tabloid scandal is riddiculous, people have been shown the door at United for a lot less.

When he admitted guilt in intimidating that kid (whose family supposedly were worried enough to move) come on, if that was a Liverpool youth player we'd all have had a field day with it,

Alot of the unwavering support the lad gets/got whatever reminds me a little of the Suarez thing, "because he's a quality player and he'll benefit us in the long run, we'll allow whatever he does, and find excuses for it all, if he was a player of average ability he would've been ostracised.

The Pogba deal is something else conpletly,

Just hope Red issue wasn't right about him as well.

[Guest M12]

Not spoken to anyone on this but if it's true this is a sad day for united. This boy is TALENTED and to let him go like this says a lot about the direction the club is going.

[Kompressor]

Or where he's going, or both?

In 5 years time, sad may be a huge understatement.