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Ahhh, c'mon Danny.

FFS.

Sturridge beating Jourdan Dunn & Welbz is entertaining this foolishness?

Making early comparisons even harder to justify man...

 

I'll justify, I know a goblin level lemon & herb spice who's current dealing with Sturridge.

 

is she white?

 

Darkie

 

He needs to bag a snowie to reach that next level of footballer haha

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Rooney and his people have learnt after years of stupidity,

@TSBible: Mario Gotze: "When I was at Borussia, Marco Reus wanted a move to Manchester United. This hasn't changed"

Anyone know where this quote was taken from or when it was made?

 

@Sport_Witness the original, presumably fake tweet sourced the 'Munchen Lokal' which is apparently a restaurant in Munich!

 

 

Coulkd still be true though, I remember when Sturridge was quoted as wanting to come to us the source was Chicken Cottage.

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"That's been the big thing for me: the difference in the style of play, committing to that and not feeling like we have to adapt to the opposition. The new manager has that confidence and belief in himself, in his own blueprint. And then in us. He tells us we're not going to change, we're just going to improve constantly and keep practising until we get to the level where we want to be. Stick to it, don't compromise, get better at it. He also spoke about the Champions League from the start. He didn't shy away from it. He came in and straight away he set the bar high. We might have got away with a fairly ordinary season – the changeover with the new manager, the first season, a transitional season – but he didn't want to accept that. He wanted to improve on what we'd done before, and we've done that" - Leighton Baines

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/18/leighton-baines-everton-england-david-moyes-roberto-martinez?CMP=twt_gu

David Moyes should not blame Manchester United’s failings this season on the quality of his squad, Everton boss Roberto Martinez claimed.

Moyes faces a hostile reception when he returns to Goodison Park and Martinez, who replaced Moyes at Everton last summer, raised the stakes by questioning the excuses given for United’s rapid decline.

The champions trail Everton by nine points with a game in hand, even though Moyes spent £27.5million to bring in Marouane Fellaini from his old club and £37.1m on Juan Mata. ‘They are still the league champions and they haven’t lost anyone,’ said Martinez. ‘It’s the opposite. They have two players on top.

‘United’s squad is bigger and better than people are trying to make out.’

Moyes has suggested he inherited an ageing group from Sir Alex Ferguson, but Martinez believes Jose Mourinho has proved that age is no obstacle by turning Chelsea into contenders.

He added: ‘Who are these United veterans? Rio Ferdinand? How many games has Rio played? Not many and Ryan Giggs hasn’t played many, either.

‘You could look at Chelsea and say they are more of an ageing squad. In football, not everything is straightforward — there’s no black and white.

‘An ageing squad if you win becomes an experienced squad with knowhow. If you lose, it becomes the players have no legs. It’s something in between those extremes.

‘You look at Chelsea, title contenders, but squad-wise worse than United.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2608066/Roberto-Martinez-slams-David-Moyes-excuses-Manchester-United-crisis.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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Daniel Taylor in the Guardian:

 

Sir Alex Ferguson always used to say Elland Road was the worst place for Manchester United to visit, on the basis "they gave us the impression lynching was too good for us". Anfield was next, for obvious reasons, but it might be a surprise that Goodison Park was the other place he used to mention, ahead of Maine Road, Upton Park or any of the other places where that little red lucifer and his trident traditionally inspired so much rage. "It wouldn't matter if we had Dixie Dean playing for us," Ferguson said. "It is always a bloody nightmare going there."

 

For David Moyes, it is certainly going to be a different experience on Sunday than he has ever encountered before at Everton, the place he called the People's Club. The last time he was there, a line of stewards clapped him through the front door. The players formed a guard of honour to usher him on to the pitch and it is difficult to think of a more moving send-off for any other manager in the Premier League era, bar Brian Clough and Ferguson. "From Death's Door to European Tours, Thank You David Moyes," a banner read in the Gwladys Street end. Another said simply: "Great Memories". The public announcer introduced him as "the one, the only, Mr David Moyes". It was a hero's ovation.

 

Football is a strange industry sometimes. It feels like the emotions and loyalties change as swiftly as firelight and, without any context, no doubt it will confuse many outsiders that a lot of the people who serenaded Moyes last May view him now with something bordering on contempt. "Moyes is part of Everton's history," the Liverpool Echo reminded its readers on Friday. "His era was, by and large, one of stability and progress." Yet the chants from the away end at Old Trafford, when Everton won there in December, were loud and vindictive and should probably give United's manager a flavour of what to expect.

 

It is a pity because there is always something to admire when a returning manager is applauded to his seat and Moyes will not be alone in thinking he probably deserves better. The other side of the argument – and it will be heard on all four sides of the ground – is that he broke the relationship, not them. Every manager has to use his elbows sometimes. Moyes's, unfortunately, have banged into Everton's ribs enough times to create the separation, even if he does not necessarily see it that way.

 

It was always the risk because, realistically, it was never going to be possible to have a totally clean break. These things can escalate quickly and it has been revealing to see the change in the way they talk of Moyes at his old club.

 

For one thing, it has not been easy keeping track of the list of players, Leighton Baines being the latest, who have made it clear they prefer working for Roberto Martínez than the old guy. Kevin Sheedy, Everton's youth-team coach, has accused Moyes of virtually ignoring the academy. Graeme Sharp has said the culture under Moyes made young players "petrified" to make a mistake. Neville Southall, another important Everton voice, has described as "despicable" Moyes's perceived hypocrisies in trying to get Baines and Marouane Fellaini on the cheap. And in the past few days, several disparaging comments have appeared on the Twitter feed of Everton's head chef, who now claims he was hacked and has deleted his account. The head chef! At this rate, Moyes must wonder how long it will be before the Toffee Lady decides to go public and complain that he never complimented her frock.

 

Sheedy's comments seemed unfair when the wall outside his office is decorated with photographs of the youngsters who have made it into the first team, even before considering Moyes's habit of driving to the other end of the country to check out a promising teenager. People should not forget that the 18-year-old John Stones was his last signing for Everton. But then, some people clearly have short memories. More than anything, it is worth remembering Moyes did an awful lot more good for his former club than bad.

 

What cannot be denied, however, is that Martínez's ability to lift and invigorate the entire club has magnified the fact Moyes, to quote Sam Allardyce, has aged about 10 years in his new job. It is not the jeers that will hurt him the most. It is the 37-point swing between the two teams from the same stage last season. Or the fact that his replacement has already surpassed Moyes's best points total, with four games still to play.

 

A few days ago, I was directed to an article – and it is surprising this has never been picked up elsewhere – that a former Everton executive by the name of Ian Ross wrote for a public-relations firm a couple of months into the season. Ross worked with Moyes for 10 years, initially as director of communications, and introduces himself as having been part of a four-man team that ran the club with Bill Kenwright, including six months as acting chief executive. Moyes, he wrote, will "unquestionably upset and irritate far more people than he will amuse and beguile. The initial convivial smiles will disappear to be replaced by the more familiar pale-faced grimaces which so characterised his years on Merseyside."

 

The manager he remembers "built teams which were designed to avoid defeat" and "often – indeed, too often for comfort – stood accused of regarding narrow defeats at the hands of his club's perceived betters akin to triumphs". His conclusion is: "Moyes's fate will almost certainly be decided by his ability, or lack of it, within the transfer market. He often bought both well and prudently but I was once shown a list of the players offered to Moyes who he subsequently declined to take a chance on. It would be wrong to go into detail here – but it was one hell of a lineup."

 

It is not the most flattering character reference, but my guess is that it ties in with the suspicions of a lot of United supporters, and likewise the suggestion further into the same piece that "the 'Everton mentality' is so deeply ingrained that he will struggle to adapt to life at a club where winning is not regarded as a bonus but demanded". That prediction has become a reality, and it is why we should keep an open mind about what the Glazer family, United's owners, do next. One certainty: after this match, everybody should have a better impression whether his players are genuinely behind him.

 

Moyes has deliberately stayed away from Goodison until now – "time is a big healer," he explains – which indicates he does, deep down, understand why the bad feeling exists.

 

He is accused, in short, of double standards. At Everton, Moyes hated nothing more than the sense that bigger clubs were patronising or bullying them. Manchester City embarked on a public pursuit of Joleon Lescott a few years back and Moyes described it as "disgusting". Then, within weeks of replacing Ferguson, he was perceived to be doing something similar. "I know if I was the Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for Baines and Fellaini, I would have found it very difficult to keep them," he said. "I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players." That was the killer quote. And it was dubious, to say the least.

 

All the same, it still does not quite add up that someone who gave everything to Everton over eight years is being threatened with the hate-mob treatment. Martínez, lest it be forgotten, went back to Wigan to sign three of their players. He managed it without any of this demonising. Ultimately, though, if Moyes is ever going to display that he is suitable to manage United he really ought to be able to face it down.

 

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