Should old folk be given a bly for racism

[Bacardi_Up]

I have a little story to tell.My dad is unwell and he's been is hospital for going on 5 months now. He can no longer walk and thus needs more intensive supervised care after coming out from hospital so he was moved into a new residence.My dad needed some clothing so I went to take some to him.While there I was pushing my dad in a wheelchair in the garden and when I wanted to take him back in some posh sounding old biddy's zimmer frame was obstructing us, she was sat down eating so I asked if it's alright if I move it, she starts throwing some fit about why we have to move it. I explain it is in the way and proceed by moving it, I swiftly move the frame back to it's original position, I then wheel my dad of to the tv room because we wanna see what is going on with the olympics and I here to old bitch saying something along the lines of "they are backwards people", "he walks and talks like a monkey".Let me add this woman seemingly had all her mental faculties about her, I was well spoken and polite and did was not bopping.My dad overheard this and she was talking about both of us, f*ck no is anyone gonna say something against my dad so I walked over to her and asked if I could have a word, this is my rant that followed:"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.I think she was on the verge of crying, I could see a tear rolling down her cheek.I felt slightly dredd after but then I thought about how she insulted my father, if it was just me then she would receive a bly but she can't be insulting my father. I would feel no way about that bitch having a heart attack from my words and going to a slightly earlier grave.So how would you feel? Would you give an elderly person a bly for overt and nasty racism just because in their day it was deemed acceptable.

[Samir Carlos]

Freedom of speech init...Hope your dad gets well soon

[Guest WAVE MACHINE]

FIRS OFF.sorry about ur father.secondly u did the right thing.thirdly i bly certain things like ppl sayin coloured and sh*t cos they they they are being politically correct and dont know any better.

[JLovely]

She needed that. Good on you.

[Natalie]

she deserved it

[Soca Junkie]

No they shouldn't be given a bly (If they are mentall stable)... just because they were brought up in a certain way or area which deemed that sort of behaviour acceptable doesn't mean it should be acceptable now.I remember one woman I was key worker for in my work... one lunch time she mussa called my bredrin ''dat darkie girl'' I had a word with her in room room after lunch was over and she apologised... I wasn't rude about it but I just had to let her know it wasn't acceptable.

[Grafter]

FIRS OFF.sorry about ur father.secondly u did the right thing.thirdly i bly certain things like ppl sayin coloured and sh*t cos they they are trying to be politically correct and dont know any better.

[Angelo]

*Spuds*Hope ur dad picks up soon.lol at me on the bus back from heathrow onetime with my mum and dad. Me and my dad were sat on the seat behind and my mum was sat in front on her own.2 Old white women got on and halfway through their conversation said to her: "More and more of them are coming over now aren't they. This countries turning brown now isnt it".Not realising my mum was an immigrant to this country herself, besides me and my dad being darker and the same, and sat right behind her.People make me laugh. Don't feel bad for other's ignorance though. There's only so much captain save a prick you can be. Just let people be sometimes. They won't change.

[DJSPARK]

No they shouldn't be given a bly

[Shawn_Carter]

Yeah you did the right thing.I can accept when older people say things like coloured, or African or whatever. Just not out and out racism like that.Interesting topic.

[Trim]

sorry to hear about your dad, you did the right thing. no they dont deserve a bly ATALL, i dont care if they are nuts, they still said it, unless they are too nuts to no what they are even saying then i woulda done the same thing. the hate i have for racist people is on some verge of insanity levels. and its not even a 'approach them like im gonna hit them' kinda thing if i hear something racist from someones mouth i always just feel to just make them feel small with words. racist people piss me off an incredible amount, scum of the earth. especially when its people who are still in school trying to be funny with their mates.

[Bacardi_Up]

She soured my whole day.My dad is 67years old. He paid nearly 40years of tax. He is as deserving of respect as any other man.Hate people like that with their backward opinions. I'm not saying someone should not have their opinions, I'm a firm believer in freedom of speech but they should be prepared for the consequences.Talking like Black people, Asians and all other races have not contributed to the progression of mankind.

[Shawn_Carter]

If she didn't intend for you to hear it then it's not as bad though still.Cos I bet a lot of elderly white people have these views of what they were taught when they were younger they can't let go, it must be confusing for them still, especially when your old and your brain aint working too well.

[SPEAK NO EVIL]

"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.

what are you trying to do? occupy the moral high ground? or back it for your dad by cussing her back? you can't have it both ways. you wasteman

[Bacardi_Up]

"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.

what are you trying to do? occupy the moral high ground? or back it for your dad by cussing her back? you can't have it both ways. you wasteman

Who said I was trying to occupy the moral high ground? You wasteman! If I thought I was occupying the moral high ground then I would not have felt initially dredd after saying that to her. Would I?Rhetorical it may have been but I was still asking the old witch a poignant question. Was she jealous or is she a low class ill educated person?I said I was trying to maintain my dignity, I talked very calmly and did not swear while still delivering the warning.Yes I insulted her back and like I said I feel no way about it. Someone racially abuses me I can occupy the moral high ground as you say but I weren't debating her, she had to know that she better change her attitude towards my dad.

[JLovely]

sorry to hear about your dad, you did the right thing. no they dont deserve a bly ATALL, i dont care if they are nuts, they still said it, unless they are too nuts to no what they are even saying then i woulda done the same thing. the hate i have for racist people is on some verge of insanity levels. and its not even a 'approach them like im gonna hit them' kinda thing if i hear something racist from someones mouth i always just feel to just make them feel small with words. racist people piss me off an incredible amount, scum of the earth. especially when its people who are still in school trying to be funny with their mates.

LOLReminds me of when some drunk one-legged white man in a wheelchair said suttin bout Black people or niggas and this boy switcccccched on him about to turn over his wheelchair an allsorts, lol.

[Bacardi_Up]

To answer another question.She did intend me to hear because she must have been shouting it because we were a fair distance away.

[Bardissimo]

"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.

what are you trying to do? occupy the moral high ground? or back it for your dad by cussing her back? you can't have it both ways. you wasteman

this juju guy isabit of an idiotbrem drops bars bruv, real talk bars

[FKFJ.]

In answer to your topic title: No. Never.Get with the times... jus cos it was acceptable then, doesnt mean its acceptable now.

[SPEAK NO EVIL]

"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.

what are you trying to do? occupy the moral high ground? or back it for your dad by cussing her back? you can't have it both ways. you wasteman

Who said I was trying to occupy the moral high ground? You wasteman! If I thought I was occupying the moral high ground then I would not have felt initially dredd after saying that to her. Would I?Rhetorical it may have been but I was still asking the old witch a poignant question. Was she jealous or is she a low class ill educated person?I said I was trying to maintain my dignity, I talked very calmly and did not swear while still delivering the warning.Yes I insulted her back and like I said I feel no way about it. Someone racially abuses me I can occupy the moral high ground as you say but I weren't debating her, she had to know that she better change her attitude towards my dad.

that was just a insult phrased as a question. you stooped to her level and still tried to go on all self righteous, waste imo

[dotcomma]

You did he right thing HOWEVER she will get over your rant and still be stuck in her ways so fairly pointless as well. Did more for making YOU feel better than helping the situation.My gran is 80 suttin and she is so stuck in certain renk ways (old bitter black women), you cant change her. So i know old ppl cant or don't want to change once they pass a certain old age

[SPEAK NO EVIL]

You did he right thing HOWEVER she will get over your rant and still be stuck in her ways so fairly pointless as well. Did more for making YOU feel better than helping the situation.

i agree with this. brem dont get me wrong i rate you for backing ur dad tho, just not hte way u did it

[Bacardi_Up]

"what gives you the right to talk about my father and I in such derogatory terms....I have not done anything to offend you so I can only assume that the basis for your attitude is that you're an ill educated racist or you are jealous that my father has a loved one to visit him when compared to a bitter, old, miserly witch like you who grows ever more sour with each passing day, week, month and year without a visit and who could blame them.You're pathetic!Now I expect you to treat my father with courtesy or I will come to hear of it, do you understand?"I purposely did not shout and did not swear so to maintain my own dignity and show she is the low class one.

what are you trying to do? occupy the moral high ground? or back it for your dad by cussing her back? you can't have it both ways. you wasteman

Who said I was trying to occupy the moral high ground? You wasteman! If I thought I was occupying the moral high ground then I would not have felt initially dredd after saying that to her. Would I?Rhetorical it may have been but I was still asking the old witch a poignant question. Was she jealous or is she a low class ill educated person?I said I was trying to maintain my dignity, I talked very calmly and did not swear while still delivering the warning.Yes I insulted her back and like I said I feel no way about it. Someone racially abuses me I can occupy the moral high ground as you say but I weren't debating her, she had to know that she better change her attitude towards my dad.

that was just a insult phrased as a question. you stooped to her level and still tried to go on all self righteous, waste imo

Like I said I was not trying to occupy the 'moral high ground'. A debate was not suitable for the situation, there was no public forum or masses to applaud my well structured argument. Take a person like ceazy who despite the numerous insightful arguments to the contrary of her opinions, she still maintains her racist views about the inferiority of various ethnic groups.Now take ceazy and add more than half a century of maintaining those backward views. How effective would a debate have been?I weren't trying to show that Asians have contributed a heap to the world and British society, I was trying to show that her attitude to my dad can't continue. If that means exposing her as either an ill educated racist or a lonely old miser then so be it. I still delivered words with more eloquence than her despite her posh accent and showed her than I am not a "backward" jungle dweller of some kind.I can't be with my dad all the time, I want his time there to be as easy as possible.She knows that if it continues then I will be back to have more words with her. Fear it might be (of being put down again) but f*ck it, whatever I feel would be most effective.

[Bacardi_Up]

You did he right thing HOWEVER she will get over your rant and still be stuck in her ways so fairly pointless as well. Did more for making YOU feel better than helping the situation.

i agree with this. brem dont get me wrong i rate you for backing ur dad tho, just not hte way u did it

Safe, I see where you are coming from but like my above post I used what I thought would be most effective bar smacking her into the grave.

[SPEAK NO EVIL]

you make some gd points, i take back what i said. safe