this latest "terrorist" convicted....

[Shawn_Carter]

the IRA didn't attack civilians btwapparently they used to give 3 hour evacuation warnings before they blew sh*t upjust by the by

[Connoisseur]

Err, dunno how other Muslims feel about this guy, biut the topic starter is making Islam look really bad right about now.About "damn shame".

Correction: He's making himself look bad as a Muslim. How is he making Islam look bad?Oh, maybe your perception of a religion is based on the actions and words of a small group of people who claim they follow that religion. Is that the case?You lot make me laugh.

[Shawn_Carter]

Err, dunno how other Muslims feel about this guy, biut the topic starter is making Islam look really bad right about now.About "damn shame".

Correction: He's making himself look bad as a Muslim. How is he making Islam look bad?Oh, maybe your perception of a religion is based on the actions and words of a small group of people who claim they follow that religion. Is that the case?You lot make me laugh.

Stupid post.You knew what I meant.

[djbmc]

lol @ brainwashed (not rly brainwashed,just lazy and xenophobic) westerners beleiving these terrorists are in it because 'they hate the concept of freedom and democracy'u shud hate yr leaders for exposing you to terrorists seeking vengeance for attrocities yr leaders commit in the name of controlling oil and land,which they tax u more for anyway at the end of the daywen yr country declares war on other nations its foolish to presume there will be no repercussions on home territory,even though they have been extremely minimal wats 40 civilian casualtys here compared to several hundred thousand in iraq.but of course innocent civilian lives lost over there mean nothing to the western press who obv as part of the war machine run a front page spread if a english soldier sprained his ankle kicking some babys to death.this is the real double standard today not some childish 'were not allowed to use racist terminology' sh*tbut,no,blame the foreigners and there religion,buy the scapegoat they are selling you,its more convenient at the end of the day.IMO if u think like sheep u mite aswell be slaughtered like sheep

c/s this, but still, f*ck this guy for wanting to blow me up.

[Connoisseur]

lol @ brainwashed (not rly brainwashed,just lazy and xenophobic) westerners beleiving these terrorists are in it because 'they hate the concept of freedom and democracy'u shud hate yr leaders for exposing you to terrorists seeking vengeance for attrocities yr leaders commit in the name of controlling oil and land,which they tax u more for anyway at the end of the daywen yr country declares war on other nations its foolish to presume there will be no repercussions on home territory,even though they have been extremely minimal wats 40 civilian casualtys here compared to several hundred thousand in iraq.but of course innocent civilian lives lost over there mean nothing to the western press who obv as part of the war machine run a front page spread if a english soldier sprained his ankle kicking some babys to death.this is the real double standard today not some childish 'were not allowed to use racist terminology' sh*tbut,no,blame the foreigners and there religion,buy the scapegoat they are selling you,its more convenient at the end of the day.IMO if u think like sheep u mite aswell be slaughtered like sheep

c/s this

[Guest Batman]

lol @ brainwashed (not rly brainwashed,just lazy and xenophobic) westerners beleiving these terrorists are in it because 'they hate the concept of freedom and democracy'u shud hate yr leaders for exposing you to terrorists seeking vengeance for attrocities yr leaders commit in the name of controlling oil and land,which they tax u more for anyway at the end of the daywen yr country declares war on other nations its foolish to presume there will be no repercussions on home territory,even though they have been extremely minimal wats 40 civilian casualtys here compared to several hundred thousand in iraq.but of course innocent civilian lives lost over there mean nothing to the western press who obv as part of the war machine run a front page spread if a english soldier sprained his ankle kicking some babys to death.this is the real double standard today not some childish 'were not allowed to use racist terminology' sh*tbut,no,blame the foreigners and there religion,buy the scapegoat they are selling you,its more convenient at the end of the day.IMO if u think like sheep u mite aswell be slaughtered like sheep

c/s this, but still, f*ck this guy for wanting to blow me up, also, lmao.

[Tyler Durden]

the IRA didn't attack civilians btwapparently they used to give 3 hour evacuation warnings before they blew sh*t upjust by the by

No matethey bombed the pub up in Woolwich just cos it was near the barracks and some soldiers used to drink thereno warning there

[Guest TimeBomb]

Err, dunno how other Muslims feel about this guy, biut the topic starter is making Islam look really bad right about now.About "damn shame".

oh seen im making 1 billion muslims look bad by starting a topic on vip2, saying its a shame a person i once knew turned militant? ok mate go back to reading the sun now.

[Afroman]

lol @ brainwashed (not rly brainwashed,just lazy and xenophobic) westerners beleiving these terrorists are in it because 'they hate the concept of freedom and democracy'u shud hate yr leaders for exposing you to terrorists seeking vengeance for attrocities yr leaders commit in the name of controlling oil and land,which they tax u more for anyway at the end of the daywen yr country declares war on other nations its foolish to presume there will be no repercussions on home territory,even though they have been extremely minimal wats 40 civilian casualtys here compared to several hundred thousand in iraq.but of course innocent civilian lives lost over there mean nothing to the western press who obv as part of the war machine run a front page spread if a english soldier sprained his ankle kicking some babys to death.this is the real double standard today not some childish 'were not allowed to use racist terminology' sh*tbut,no,blame the foreigners and there religion,buy the scapegoat they are selling you,its more convenient at the end of the day.IMO if u think like sheep u mite aswell be slaughtered like sheep

c/s this, but still, f*ck this guy for wanting to blow me up.

[liborpatois]

i get what timebomb is saying, probably was a safe dude innit, but he wasnt to know about his hidden antics.considering how many wars the british government is involved with we are lucky we only was afflicted with 7/7when you start something no matter what, there always a reaction, if you kick of beef or commit murder with someone or along them lines theres always revenge or an avenged attack.its simply happening because of the wars, personally I condemn these type of attacks and if these man were serious then go to war, and war it out with the allied forces like certain man did in the bosnian war and currently in afghanistan

[local]

lol @ the attempted justificationbecause we aren't bothered bout ppl in next countrys gettin killed we deserve it?lol, honestly, i couldn't give two f*cks bout any of these pricksu man r goin on like u don't live in this country like ur not in the same boatlike u couldn't be hitholocaust is needed tbh

[Connoisseur]

lol @ the attempted justificationbecause we aren't bothered bout ppl in next countrys gettin killed we deserve it?lol, honestly, i couldn't give two f*cks bout any of these pricksu man r goin on like u don't live in this country like ur not in the same boatlike u couldn't be hitholocaust is needed tbh

I don't recall anyone saying anything about deserving it. Just that it shouldn't go unexpected.I don't condone killing innocent lives, wherever in the world it may take place. There's no justification for that.I would much prefer these nuts to target government locations than random public places filled with innocent people, any day. If you read the 7/7 memorial thread a couple months ago, I stated that I narrowly missed being a victim of the 7/7 bombings myself, so I'm not going on like I can't be hit, because I almost did get hit.But I still see things from the bigger picture.

[Samir Carlos]

Why does some random guy feel the need to step up and try kill us all.O.k fair enough blair done his own thing in Iraq but I don't see any random british person getting up of there seat and planning a bomb attack.we get on with our lives, we dont get moist over our countries actions like american or middle east, we just work, we party we dont sit up all night learning bomb techniques.

[Guest Batman]

Though TBFH bare attrocities have happened abroad but that isnt the point.Anyone who sets out to kill innocent people - regardless of motive = deserving of having their eyelids peeled off with an eggspoon.

[VENOM]

lol @ the attempted justificationbecause we aren't bothered bout ppl in next countrys gettin killed we deserve it?lol, honestly, i couldn't give two f*cks bout any of these pricksu man r goin on like u don't live in this country like ur not in the same boatlike u couldn't be hitholocaust is needed tbh

I don't recall anyone saying anything about deserving it. Just that it shouldn't go unexpected.I don't condone killing innocent lives, wherever in the world it may take place. There's no justification for that.I would much prefer these nuts to target government locations than random public places filled with innocent people, any day. If you read the 7/7 memorial thread a couple months ago, I stated that I narrowly missed being a victim of the 7/7 bombings myself, so I'm not going on like I can't be hit, because I almost did get hit.But I still see things from the bigger picture.

just face it that islam in its rawest form is violent and backward. same way christianity was. DID YOU SEE THE AMT OF WHITE MEN AND WOMEN OPPOSING THE WAR WIV ALL DEM MARCHES????

[Kaiser]

EditedWho cares about the middle east they brought it upon themselvesGuys in this topic make me sickWas talking sh*t before had to edit couldnt even understand what I said

[Kaiser]

There is NO justificationIt isn't written in the quran or anywhereIf you want to help the middle east go to their battle front and fight like a man instead of blowing up innocent civiliansSome Islamic nations are living like Barbarians and this is a fact

[Guest Batman]

Lahi that wasnt even slightly coherant =\*edit* the first post

[Guest Batman]

End of the day, yes they are cowardsFrom the perspetive of WAR, there is cause yesBut from a logical, personal perspective of REALITY, yes, these type of people are some of the worst on the planet.Saying this does not mean I condone OTHER peoples actions, but to not recognise scum when you see it is just stupid.

[Connoisseur]

Why does some random guy feel the need to step up and try kill us all.O.k fair enough blair done his own thing in Iraq but I don't see any random british person getting up of there seat and planning a bomb attack.we get on with our lives, we dont get moist over our countries actions like american or middle east, we just work, we party we dont sit up all night learning bomb techniques.

Exactly. And that's the difference between normal civilised people and terrorists, no matter what race, religion they hold, or country they live in.It just annoys me when people cannot differentiate between the two, and instead point the finger at race, religion, or whatever excuses and rationales that these terrorists use for their actions.

[Connoisseur]

just face it that islam in its rawest form is violent and backward. same way christianity was.

That might be your perception of Islam. Not mine though.One question: Did you have as much knowledge (biased or unbiased) about Islam before September 11th, 2001, as you do now?I very highly doubt it.Since September 11th, 2001, Islam has suddenly become this evil, violent religion. It just goes to show how much media and propaganda can affect one's opinion and perception of a chosen subject.I also like the way you used the present-tense when referring to Islam, but used past-tense when referring to Christianity. Indicates something that only a knowledgable Akhi will pick up on.

[Guest Batman]

I think he was putting the point about the crusadesWhere as, if we are honest, now NO christians claim to kill in the 'name of christianity' do they?Nothing about being knowledgeable tbh

[Connoisseur]

I think he was putting the point about the crusadesWhere as, if we are honest, now NO christians claim to kill in the 'name of christianity' do they?Nothing about being knowledgeable tbh

Nah sorry you didn't pick up on it. You're another one that confuses a religion with the followers of that religion.

[Guest Batman]

I think he was putting the point about the crusadesWhere as, if we are honest, now NO christians claim to kill in the 'name of christianity' do they?Nothing about being knowledgeable tbh

Nah sorry you didn't pick up on it. You're another one that confuses a religion with the followers of that religion.

No.Im confused about nothing, Christianity itself has never been about ViolenceIf you say so then you are the one getting actions of people and dictation of religion confused.

[Frank Furta]

Innocent muslims are being killed in the afghanistan because of these f*ckers. Blame ur own.