any1 know about the secret

[Superstition]

Of course thoughts imprisioned in ones mind alone can not affect or manipulate anything in the real world. Surely that is not the foundation of your resistance in refusing to accept positive/negative thoughts manipulate is it?

Exasperated atm.That is exactly what The Secret claims, and is the reason I have a problem with it, as I have said repeatedly

[Uncle Man]

To change your circumstances you have to reconstruct your character and change the things you do: the steps you take in search of success, the way you interact with people, the effort you put in, the choices you make. Amending your outlook is just loading the gun: pulling the trigger requires changing your conduct. People who swear by this have done both, and attributed it to the former, without realising that it's the latter which brought the improvement. External circumstances change because you change them, not because success was "sucked" towards you by your positive vibrations.

you were cosigned out here today young man

[carpedeum]

Of course thoughts imprisioned in ones mind alone can not affect or manipulate anything in the real world. Surely that is not the foundation of your resistance in refusing to accept positive/negative thoughts manipulate is it?

Exasperated atm.That is exactly what The Secret claims, and is the reason I have a problem with it, as I have said repeatedly

i have to come back to this i know its a long one..but yes, the secret claims this because this is where it begins. i.e. to picture oneself in that place they want to be is the beginning of the action process. to have an aim without a focus means you will be guided by whatever comes your way that seems to be ok. because the mind is the most powerful thing, it is only right to get it into gear that drives your actions. all the secret is saying is that the difference between good, bad, excellent, and amazing is in the thought process. and it's saying that by shaping your mind you shape your situations. this is the part you seem to have a problem with but i know from personal experience it is way more right than wrong.but rather than talk in proverbs how about practical examples it gives: i say to myself..or am told by someone : "make sure you are not late" or "dont be late", or "Dont stay up too late" for an event. is it bullshit for me to to say when ive heard this said.... THAT'S the very time i AM late for the event..more times than not? why is that? bcos in my mind all i picture is BEING LATE .. sometimes i picture the embarrasement and already have the excuse mapped out, or sometimes i dont think that far.. but the more i think about the event is the more i tell myself not to be late.. but what my mind is reading is that i fear being late..and im focusing more on being late..so fate or frequencies adjust my actions to make me stay up late...or thats when you cant find your keys, you find it hard to sleep, a nice program comes on just as im about to go bed.. etc.so how is this corrected? when being told or aware of not being late..think of the exact opposite which is to BE EARLY. its not only the opposite..its also the positive 'frequency'. once i started this, my whole sleep pattern and time management has improved. i dont THINK of being late..i THINK of being early and see me being early and arriving on time etc.. thats when i just collapse on the sofa, close the lappy and go to bed..and i noticed that i actually FEEL tired. another thing u probably disagree with that the book says is that not everything has to even demand an action through the thought process. by thinking and focusing your energy on that thing you're thinking about is action in itself and it will produce results.you say its bullshit, while it gives examples such as : have you ever thought hard enough about someone... it may just be casual thoughts..but regular ones.. and then voila over a short space of time..like 2 days or so, that person calls YOU, or Bumps into YOU. THEY performed the action not you. have you held a grudge so much against someone that you actually felt sick? you cant eat, or focus properly on anything but everythign that happened and why you hate that person. all ur doing is thinking, yet any action you take outside of that thought process is hampered..many of us have done these things mentioned in the book effortlessly, and we dont even think about how it happened.i volunteered with a youth project in houston, and got to hear so many stories about real ghetto life, drugs, gangs similar to london in some way etc my experience made me constantly thinking of the stories and real life events and i just imagined this as a sort of drama on tv. i had all the characters playing out in my head.. i had no idea how to write a drama, it just bcame a day dream constantly. 7 months or so later i was doing some work work in NY, on the 2nd day as i walked out for lunch...right in front of me i saw on a billboard i thought nothing of it, and then about 2 weeks later the subway more billboards saying "we are all connected" so i asked my firend what this was about and he said it was some show thats recently started blah blah.. anyways i got into the wire that way.but then by season 4 i was almost obsessed with it.. according to what the secret explains...that obsession was infact a high amt of energy in my thought process which in turn shaped events that happened related to the show... i do not think it's just coincidence that i got to meet the people who played snoop, chris, and lester freeman in person, in absolute random ways. lester freeman was in a west end show in london. i had no clue about it, im not a theatre fan... the night before i had just watched an episode of series 4..i can say that again... it was just casual thoughts about the previous episode playing out in my head... the next day i was listening to bbc london, at a time im normally at gym and lester (or clarke peters) call INTO bbc london to talk to vanessa about the topic she was talking about. i didnt even know his real name at the time.. she just announced him as clarke from west london..but i knew that voice. i called in and spoke to the person who answers b4 putting u through..and just BEGGED her to tell me what show it was that the guy mentioned he was in..cos all vanessa said was that he was in a show in the west end. long story short.. i got to meet him after the show (porgy and bess) and had a walk with him and 3 other actors on the show..talking about the wire. am i saying my thoughts made him come to london? NO.. he comes regularly and had been long before '06 when i met him. BUT had he called into the bbc before...NO. do i normally listen to vanessa at that time..NO. a freak event occurred that made it possible2008.. in houston i went with friends on an invite to that youth project again.. it was just a social gathering..play bball and have a talk about whats been going on. they had some special guests to talk.. players from the rockets, local politicans and one guy called david Simon. david simon is the friggin man who made 'the wire' possible..as writer and producer... everythign went full circle and its in the same place that my thoughts about something similar to the wire began that i met him. of course at the time i thought nothing of it and assumed all this was chance, but after reading the book i beleive what it's saying when it explains how high amounts of energy (and this energy can be effortless) can shape your environment to respond to those thoughts, either by you doing the action, or by the action coming to you.theres so many other examples i have..and which we all have that is similar in their own unique way..and we assume that it's just chance. but when you put the references to the bible, famous authors, philosophers, scientists, and successful famous people..the same thought process helped shape their environment to make things possible. this is why when richard branson who had always had the idea of owning his own island where he could send his label's artists to chill and record... went to the carribean after responding to an ad seeking prospective buyers...he got shown around the place and fell in love with it.... BUT it cost $6million. he was 24yrs old, and not a millionaire.. so he offered them about $400k they were pissed that this young man wasted their time and chucked him off the island with security. yet, how then did the same people later on, need money for short term capital and then remembered him and called him to buy the $6m island for $300,000.?? this isnt just chance..thats the universe as the secret describes working for you to make what seemed impossible possible through the amount of thinking and focus we use.these circumstances can be changed for everyone and anyone...all the secret is doing is describing how the thought energy works and how musch or less of it we use can work FOR or AGAINST us. you talk about science and unproven 'facts'.. when infact the human mind is THE most untapped and unexplainable part of the human body. thats why ppl are prescribed drugs they dont need when it comes to mental or behavioural problems, and others claimed to be mental when tests show NOTHING is physically wrong with the brain, thats why meditation is seen as so important..or dangerous. i dont understand it all myself but apart from the bible i havent read any book like it and find it insulting that someone sits there and tells me its bullshit basing it on nothing but some logical approach. its NOT Blaady LOGICAL dammit.. thats why its so powerful.

[NO SUNSHINE]

To change your circumstances you have to reconstruct your character and change the things you do: the steps you take in search of success, the way you interact with people, the effort you put in, the choices you make. Amending your outlook is just loading the gun: pulling the trigger requires changing your conduct. People who swear by this have done both, and attributed it to the former, without realising that it's the latter which brought the improvement. External circumstances change because you change them, not because success was "sucked" towards you by your positive vibrations.

you were cosigned out here today young man

Lol at the people who seem to genuinely believe if you really want to get hench and spend all your waking hours thinking about getting hench, you don't need to go gym cos you will wake up one morning with muscle, which is the sort of sh*t this "secret" is claimingIf people are saying all it means is think positive and try hard and you have a better chance of being successful than if you don't, well that's hardly news to many people

[carpedeum]

Lol at the people who seem to genuinely believe if you really want to get hench and spend all your waking hours thinking about getting hench, you don't need to go gym cos you will wake up one morning with muscle, which is the sort of sh*t this "secret" is claimingIf people are saying all it means is think positive and try hard and you have a better chance of being successful than if you don't, well that's hardly news to many people

no ur being silly..amazingly silly. what the secret is saying is that the person who sees him or herself as being the fittest or best body he can be..truly begins in the thought process. that thought process is the difference between winning a competition..should the person be a competitor, and coming 4th. if the person is not..thats the difference between someone training WELL for 2yrs and looking much better than the person who has trained for 7.what it is saying is that if you place high amts of thought energy into body building... things will shape themselves to work in your favor. examples will be: thats the time that some pro body builder begins working out at YOUR gym to guide you. or a personal trainer takes an interest in your efforts, thats the time you will get to meet someone who sells you or knows someone who can sell you juice for very good deals (if that was included in your initial thinking of 'rah i wanna get huuge and dont care if i take juice..infact i need to use it")that is when you may get sponsored by no real effort of your own.this is why arny said at age 21 that he was going to move to america and become a superstar actor...without being able to speak proper english, NO links to america (he said it when he lived in london), NO acting skills, and at the time it would not be thinkable that Hollywood would make him a superstar just bcos of his bodybuilding. but all that didnt matter.... he saw it, claimed it and became it. and the secret is showing how it can be applied to everything in life every time.i think im done for the night...

[NO SUNSHINE]

Lol at the people who seem to genuinely believe if you really want to get hench and spend all your waking hours thinking about getting hench, you don't need to go gym cos you will wake up one morning with muscle, which is the sort of sh*t this "secret" is claimingIf people are saying all it means is think positive and try hard and you have a better chance of being successful than if you don't, well that's hardly news to many people

no ur being silly..amazingly silly. what the secret is saying is that the person who sees him or herself as being the fittest or best body he can be..truly begins in the thought process. that thought process is the difference between winning a competition..should the person be a competitor, and coming 4th. if the person is not..thats the difference between someone training WELL for 2yrs and looking much better than the person who has trained for 7.what it is saying is that if you place high amts of thought energy into body building... things will shape themselves to work in your favor. examples will be: thats the time that some pro body builder begins working out at YOUR gym to guide you. or a personal trainer takes an interest in your efforts, thats the time you will get to meet someone who sells you or knows someone who can sell you juice for very good deals (if that was included in your initial thinking of 'rah i wanna get huuge and dont care if i take juice..infact i need to use it")that is when you may get sponsored by no real effort of your own.this is why arny said at age 21 that he was going to move to america and become a superstar actor...without being able to speak proper english, NO links to america (he said it when he lived in london), NO acting skills, and at the time it would not be thinkable that Hollywood would make him a superstar just bcos of his bodybuilding. but all that didnt matter.... he saw it, claimed it and became it. i think im done for the night...

And what about the tens of thousands of people who move to America to be superstar actors who really really want it and end up working as waiters for the rest of their lives?

[carpedeum]

Lol at the people who seem to genuinely believe if you really want to get hench and spend all your waking hours thinking about getting hench, you don't need to go gym cos you will wake up one morning with muscle, which is the sort of sh*t this "secret" is claimingIf people are saying all it means is think positive and try hard and you have a better chance of being successful than if you don't, well that's hardly news to many people

no ur being silly..amazingly silly. what the secret is saying is that the person who sees him or herself as being the fittest or best body he can be..truly begins in the thought process. that thought process is the difference between winning a competition..should the person be a competitor, and coming 4th. if the person is not..thats the difference between someone training WELL for 2yrs and looking much better than the person who has trained for 7.what it is saying is that if you place high amts of thought energy into body building... things will shape themselves to work in your favor. examples will be: thats the time that some pro body builder begins working out at YOUR gym to guide you. or a personal trainer takes an interest in your efforts, thats the time you will get to meet someone who sells you or knows someone who can sell you juice for very good deals (if that was included in your initial thinking of 'rah i wanna get huuge and dont care if i take juice..infact i need to use it")that is when you may get sponsored by no real effort of your own.this is why arny said at age 21 that he was going to move to america and become a superstar actor...without being able to speak proper english, NO links to america (he said it when he lived in london), NO acting skills, and at the time it would not be thinkable that Hollywood would make him a superstar just bcos of his bodybuilding. but all that didnt matter.... he saw it, claimed it and became it. i think im done for the night...

And what about the tens of thousands of people who move to America to be superstar actors who really really want it and end up working as waiters for the rest of their lives?

they didnt see it. simple. wanting it and not seeing it is not good enough. when i was told that fitness mags have a long list of fitness models waiting to be featured.. it didnt matter to me, even though i had only been 4 weeks in that town. i wasnt on their list..and i showed up.. the person who was supposed to feature alongside the main person hurt his back doing squats the night before. part of the work experience i had done at MTV NY was where the main person in the mag feature was thinking of applying for something they were doing.. we talked a bit.. i had no connections there to offer him or nothing..but it created something in common...and HE chose me. the act of wanting to feature in a mag alone should have been cut down based on 'logic' that i had no prior experience, there was a long list of experienced people, i was new in that town. but i saw it happening.. i didnt know when or how.. it just did. thats why wanting to act and even acting upon that want is not always enough

[VENOM]

rahtid. come like u wrote a book. u lot really need to get off the internet for a bit. typing chapters like ppl gonna take notes