Ramseys not trained with a sword tbh
Was a bit hollywood story line wise but both parts of that episode is what GOT should have been doing when it comes to dragon and war scenes. Surely it's got a big enough budget by now? It was near movie like.
Cinematography wise, that was one of the best shot scenes/ep in the history of GOT. Literally no time wasting with both parts of the episode.
Not GOAT episode. Like someone said, there was no action since the Hodor episode and even that wasn't full scale. It didn't inspire the Hardhome levels of excitement for me due to it being made pretty obvious that the Knights of the Vale would come and save the day. However, the build up with Ramsey killing Rickon and getting Jon so mad he couldn't stick to the plan was quite possibly one of my favourite parts of the series.
In terms of likeable villains
Ramsey Bolton>>>Norman Stansfield>>>________
Hardhome was chilling.
Our Jon's swordsmanship >>>>
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when i watched the ep it was on my phone on my way to work
yesterday i watched it on teh full screen
fok
the cinematography was definitely something else
i think i was more underwhlemed as i accidentally saw a post from here that said ramsays screams were something else before i watched it so i already knew he was going to die
battle was a madness bodies just piling up
dunno how snow came close to suffocating, been battling guys for hours then still had the energy to pursue Ramsay into winterfell
see how my man was sprinting like bolt head down hands swinging - kai
gonna miss ramsay tho - loved his character-i hoep to see the actor in more films to come
he should play the joker in batman
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Ramsey is actually a madman cos...
Ramsay Bolton never actually fights with a sword in the entire battle - he only uses a bow and arrow to toy with his enemies. This is in line with a point from the novels: Ramsay has absolutely no military training, and isn't actually a proficient swordsman. He isn't a coward, and he will brazenly charge at enemies, but he has no formal technique, and cannot hope to compare to a formally trained swordsman like Jon Snow. In the novels, Stannis points out that all Ramsay does is sadistically torture prisoners who cannot possibly fight back against him - he's never actually fought anyone in direct combat.
The TV show invented a scene in Season 4 of Ramsay fighting off a raid by Yara's ironborn on the Dreadfort, bare-chested and wielding daggers, but even this was more of a surprise raid than formal combat, and his guards outnumbered her small raiding force.
In the "Inside the Episode" featurette, the showrunners explain a major point about Ramsay Bolton's reactions from when the army of the Vale shows up onwards: Ramsay cannot mentally process that he is losing. This explains his bizarre lack of fear up until almost the moment of his death: he is so used to sadistically torturing people he has complete control over in his dungeons that when a situation finally goes beyond his control, he cannot mentally accept the reality of what is happening - instead he just continues to hold on to the confidence that somehow, he'll be able to employ cunning and tricks to get out of this, until it becomes an outright break with reality:
When Ramsay's army gets caught out of formation and totally destroyed by the knights of the Vale, he tries to wave it off by saying that he still has Winterfell and it can withstand a siege - even though the army of the Vale, tens of thousands strong, is at the least going to besiege the castle, this makes him look weak enough that the rest of the North will rise up against him, and there is no hope of the Lannisters sending him any aid. His remaining general realizes that all is lost even if they still have Winterfell for the moment, but Ramsay seems almost glib about it.
Ramsay seems almost serious, not sarcastic, when he tells Jon he now "accepts" his offer of personal combat - despite being surrounded by Jon's soldiers with bows pointed at him, Ramsay is still smiling at the situation as if this isn't the end.
Ramsay continues to grin as Jon beats him to a pulp - apparently because he thinks Jon is venting his anger but won't actually kill him. Even at this point Ramsay is still totally confident that he'll get out of this somehow.
The Inside the Episode featurette directly states that the reason Jon stops before he can beat Ramsay to death with his bare hands is not out of some sense that sparing him is the honorable thing to do, but specifically because he looks over at Sansa and realizes she has more right to kill Ramsay than he does. Ramsay apparently continues to smirk through this because he incorrectly interprets this as that the Starks are going to spare him.
Even when Ramsay is tied up in a chair in the kennels, he is still filled with his habitual confidence that he can just trick his way out of this somehow, that for whatever reason the universe won't let the Starks kill him now. He seems outright surprised when Sansa points out that his own dogs will indeed eat him because he starved them for a week. Only at the moment that the dogs start biting him, for a precious few seconds before he dies, does Ramsay know fear and realize he isn't going to survive this.
According to Dan Weiss in the Inside the Episode featurette, the original draft of the episode had Jon's final confrontation with Ramsay occur on the battlefield, once he penetrated to the very rear of the Bolton lines where Ramsay was. In subsequent drafts they decided that it had more dramatic resonance for Jon to actually confront (and then pummel) Ramsay inside the courtyard of Winterfell itself, given that this whole battle is about the Starks fighting to retake their home - thus the final confrontation occurs within their home castle.
According to Sansa, House Bolton died with Ramsay. No other relatives or cousins have been mentioned in the novels either, so if Ramsay indeed kills Roose (and Walda's baby) in the next novel, this would apparently make him the last living Bolton - directly because he killed all the others
Sansa Stark never even met Ramsay Bolton in the novels, much less married him. This was a heavy condensation of the TV series with a different character, Sansa's best friend Jeyne Poole, who was passed off as Arya so Ramsay could claim the North through her (the Boltons and Lannisters didn't know what happened to either of the Stark girls). As such, Sansa probably won't directly oversee Ramsay's death in the books like this - though even in the books it may turn out to be poetic justice that he will ultimately die when someone feeds him to his own starving dogs (the Bastard's girls), given how infamously he has used them to kill dozens of his victims and hunted girls for sport with them.
In the novels, the Bolton army is supplemented by forces from the Northern vassal Houses that only grudgingly serve them, such as House Manderly and elements of House Umber, but these vassals are actually planning to betray the Boltons when a crucial moment presents itself (i.e. by changing sides mid-battle). In this episode, Jon Snow even points out that Ramsay Bolton's army only serves him out of fear, don't like or respect him, and would abandon him if the opportunity presented itself. Ultimately this has no impact on the final version of events in the TV episode: Smalljon Umber actively fights for Ramsay, never betrays him, and dies fighting in the battle. The only hint of this thematic point is when Sansa later points out that Ramsay starved and mistreated his hunting dogs so much that they will eat him, even though he blindly insists that they are "loyal" to him.
One element of the battle does showcase Ramsay's short-sighted cruelty, and that he directly pays for it. At the beginning of the season, his father Roose Bolton angrily tried to explain to him that he can't just focus on the battle in front of him, but needs to worry about preserving his resources for fighting new wars in the future. Roose directly warned Ramsay that he was too focused on attacking the Starks, when he needed to worry about what the Lannisters would do when they found out he married Sansa Stark instead of turning her over to King's Landing - which, as it turned out, was to send the full army of The Vale of Arryn to invade the North. In the battle, Ramsay orders his archers to shoot at his own cavalry in the melee, knowing he will be killing many of his own men as well, because he is overconfident that his 6,000 man army outnumbers the Starks by over two to one - even though Roose tried to warn him that he actually cannot afford to waste any men in the long term, because their army isn't big enough to hold the entire North if every vassal House rebels against them. The result of Ramsay killing his own cavalry in the crossfire is that he doesn't have any cavalry left to counter the knights of the Vale when they attack. On top of this, he didn't plan out to leave any rearguard, so that the only men he had left were a handful of guards in the castle itself - despite his desperate claim, it's possible that he didn't even have enough men left to defend against a major siege.
Show really didnt do Ramsay justice...
He forces Theon to participate in rape. First, he orders Theon to cut his bride's clothes off. Then, after jamming two fingers inside his bride, causing her to gasp in pain, he decides she's too dry and orders Theon to perform oral sex to "get her ready." "And be quick about it," he tells him. "If she's not wet by the time I'm done disrobing, I will cut off that tongue of yours and nail it to the wall."
He rapes his wife with dogs. Sansa never marries Ramsay in the books. Instead, his bride is a different "Stark," or someone masquerading as a Stark: Sansa's childhood friend Jeyne Poole, who has been presented as if she were Arya. (The show gave Sansa this poor girl's story line.) When a rescue is attempted, like Reek, she resists, thinking it a trick. "This is just some test to make sure that I love him ... Tell him, you tell him. I'll do what he wants ... whatever he wants ... with him or ... or with the dog or ... please ... he doesn't need to cut my feet off, I won't try to run away, not ever, I'll give him sons, I swear it, I swear it ..." Later, her breasts are covered with teeth marks, and it's not clear whether the bites are canine or human.
He makes his victims beg to cut off body parts. "Lord Ramsay would never simply cut off a man's finger. He preferred to flay it and let the exposed flesh dry and crack and fester. ... It was the sort of pain that drove men mad. Soon or late, the victim would scream, 'Please, no more, no more, stop it hurting, cut it off,' and Lord Ramsay would oblige." Theon had lost the little toe off his right foot, three from his left foot. He was reduced to seven fingers, having lost two fingers off his left hand and the pinky off his right. And he predicts that when his fingers and toes are gone, Ramsay will take his hands and feet, "but only when I beg for it, when the pain grows so bad that I plead for him to give me some relief." Theon tries to end the pain of a flayed digit with his own teeth, and Ramsay is not pleased. "The offense had cost Reek another toe."
On 14 June 2016 at 10:38 AM, FA23 said:
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Why did Ramsey shoot the dying giant in the eye when he could have shot John Snow...
and then proceed to try and fail to shoot John Snow?
Ramsey in the books sounds fucked
11 hours ago, Fresh said:Why did Ramsey shoot the dying giant in the eye when he could have shot John Snow...
and then proceed to try and fail to shoot John Snow?
because hes fucked in the head - wanted eeryone else to suffer and still thought he could shoot snow
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why is it not embedding? It was before I submitted it
10 hours ago, Badman said:
lol
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ramsey is a top top villain.
jon getting trampled and suffocating scene was done really well, like i could actually feel him suffocating
On 6/22/2016 at 11:17 AM, JOHN DOE said:
see how my man was sprinting like bolt head down hands swinging - kai
Heh! Snow was DUSSING looooooool
Ramsey >>>>>>>>
Top c*nt
Rip
Will be missed
They saying brexit fuck with this as well 
They saying brexit fuck with this as well
Nar it won't have any effect on it.
no dude really, the show receives EU funding
It hasn't received EU Funding for the last few series.
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Battle scene was mad realistic heard they wanted to do this for season 1 where jamie got captured but couldnt afford it.
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The Goat of all time.
When he was getting trampled reminded me of Hillsborough though
Poor people.
Ramsey wasn't on that Jon Snow duel, not 1 bit.
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