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5 hours ago, Greens said:

Jon was on that quiet life until Sansa gassed up the tings.

Mirroring real life tbh

These bitches be triffling yo!

[hoe] what?? Your going to just let him do that?? I guess your not a REAL man...I will deal with It myself! I[/hoe]

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This is the letter he sends in the book..

Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in seven days of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore.

Your false king's friends are dead. Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell. Come see them, bastard. Your false king lied, and so did you. You told the world you burned the King-Beyond-the-Wall. Instead you sent him to Winterfell to steal my bride from me.

I will have my bride back. If you want Mance Rayder back, come and get him. I have him in a cage for all the north to see, proof of your lies. The cage is cold, but I have made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell.

I want my bride back. I want the false king's queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. I want this wildling princess. I want his little prince, the wildling babe. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it.

Ramsay Bolton, Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.

 

Looks like they have merged certain characters like rickon and mance rayder.

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2 hours ago, Iceberg said:

This is the letter he sends in the book..

 

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Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in seven days of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore.

Your false king's friends are dead. Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell. Come see them, bastard. Your false king lied, and so did you. You told the world you burned the King-Beyond-the-Wall. Instead you sent him to Winterfell to steal my bride from me.

I will have my bride back. If you want Mance Rayder back, come and get him. I have him in a cage for all the north to see, proof of your lies. The cage is cold, but I have made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell.

I want my bride back. I want the false king's queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. I want this wildling princess. I want his little prince, the wildling babe. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it.

Ramsay Bolton, Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.

 

Looks like they have merged certain characters like rickon and mance rayder.

 

 

that link i posted earlier talks about how the book differs in this story line..  seems like its gonna be a mish mash of the book but with the same outcome most likley...

 

 

 

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You see, in the books, one of the later plotlines sees the appearance of Lord Wyman Manderly, a comically fat noble in his 60s who claims loyalty to the Freys and Boltons after the events of the Red Wedding.

Throughout his appearance in most recent novel A Dance with Dragons, Manderly appears weak and foolish, agreeing to marry his granddaughter to the Freys and giving up some of his lands despite the fact that his own son Wendel was killed at the Freys' Red Wedding. Later, he even orders the execution of Davos Seaworth, who had come to treat with him on behalf of Stannis Baratheon (who is not dead in the books, unlike the TV show).

However, it is later revealed that this is all a charade – Manderly is still loyal to the Starks and is only pretending to be a fool, displaying the severed head and hands of someone someone else in place of Davos and plotting revenge against the Freys and Boltons on behalf of his murdered son (who also died in the TV show – you can see the Manderly mermaid crest on this guy in the Red Wedding).

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It’s also hinted that Wyman bakes some Freys into pies, but let’s not dwell on that too much.

Anyway, the reason this is important now is that the TV show recently brought up the Manderlys as an important alliance for the Boltons alongside the Umbers and the Karstarks (who hate the Starks after Robb executed their father in season three). Just check out this quote from Ramsay in this season’s episode two, “Home”:


“We don’t need every house in the North. The Umbers, the Manderlys and the Karstarks command more soldiers than all the other houses combined. With their support, none could challenge us.”


We’ve already seen the Karstarks and Umbers, so you can bet Manderlys are coming. Meanwhile, fan site Watchers on the Wall have posted rumours that the show put out a casting for someone to play Wyman this season:


“He is a fat nobleman in his 60s. He has distinctive rugged features, a Northern accent, and a distinguished air. Our source says he has a stirring speech during which heunexpectedly shifts political allegiances.”


Stirring speech? Could they possibly be referring to this iconic moment from the books when Wyman dramatically reveals his true colours to Davos?


“Foes and false friends are all around me, Lord Davos. They infest my city like roaches, and at night I feel them crawling over me.”

The fat man’s fingers coiled into a fist, and all his chins trembled. “My son Wendel came to the Twins a guest. He ate Lord Walder’s bread and salt, and hung his sword upon the wall to feast with his friends. And they murdered him. Murdered, I say, and may the Freys choke upon their fables. I drink with Jared, jape with Symond, promise Rhaegar the hand of my own beloved granddaughter… but never think that means I have forgotten. The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.


Manderly then goes on to implore Ser Davos to bring him Rickon Stark so the northern houses can rally behind him, and generally speaking this plotline is referred to by fans as the Northern Conspiracy. 

 

So in summary.

  • The Umbers might not really have betrayed Rickon, and even if they have, the Boltons’ other main ally the Manderlys might be about to stab them in the back.
  • Shaggydog’s severed head might be the in-show equivalent of the fake Davos head and hands – a bit of theatre designed to lull the Boltons and Freys into a false sense of security.
  • And the fact that the Umbers used the real Rickon as an offering to Ramsay doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve betrayed him. As an in-show explanation it could be that Rickon ordered them to use him in case any old Stark servants recognised him (and to avoid putting an imposter in danger), and as a real-world reason the show could be trying to make us think this oathbreaking is genuine. If they used a fake, there'd be no suspense at all.

In other words, this very well could be the show’s attempt to compress and adapt the Northern Conspiracy storyline (substituting a few other houses for the Manderlys and/or Umbers), and generally speaking there might be hope for the Seven Kingdoms yet.

Or you know, we’re wrong and Rickon is about to get flayed and burned upside down on a cross by Ramsay next week.

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Fingers crossed, eh?

 

 

 

 

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pissed why didnt i see this last night, long arse monday at work with a 2 day hangover to get thru ffs.

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