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irish hes right. although hes speaking from experience cos he used to be like that until the national front recruited him for reoriention

don't agree with me child

i'm talkin about you, your the 1 with the mindset

if you mean that i used to think liberally like irish, yeah i did, i got it from the tv

reoriention ain't even a word

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I find that a lot of people, from my own experience (not stating it as fact) tend to base their current opinions of races or people because of things that happened in the past, and thus aren't willing to attribute to the past, harbour grudges and live life like that.

The gang culture cropping up in major cities in England is what I consider an example of that, but could very well be in response for white supremacists like the EDL.

whilst your clearly a reasonably intelligent man and you've shown yourself capable of using common sense and a knowledge of history to reach logical conclusions in this thread

you continue to expose yourself as a brainwashed liberal numpty

people try pass the blame so hard it gets to the point where blacks must be incapable of any real independant thought in some people's heads, jus vulnerable puppets in pinkys hand, whether it comes to genocide in zimbabwe, "gang culture" in the uk or a footballer wifin a white bird

must be a pretty destructive mindset to have tbh, but hey.......probably just another cause of the slave trade

What are you insinuating? Whites have played no part in the current condition of blacks?

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On 09/02/2012 at 2:59 AM, Raegus said:

What are you insinuating? Whites have played no part in the current condition of blacks?

i'm insinuating that maybe you shouldn't be so quick to pass the buck

and that maybe somewhere hidden deep inside the negroe cranium there lies a place where blacks are capable of independent thought, sheltered from the evil winds of white influence

I mean I recognise that there's an obvious difference between the handling of race-related topics in the uk media and the unchallenged reinforcement of a gap between 2 social classes and then abandonment by foreign forces in Rwanda

but as picks up, asians are a familiar target for many newspapers n we are being pitted against each other everyday in the media. Yet no genocide...

a foreign people with quite dramatically different, often alien, values, morales and traditions have set up small colonies in the heart of every city and significant town in the past few generations and now take up quite a significant population of the country, an entire new class you could say

and yet despite this occurring without the consent of the english people, and new fear-mongering headlines in the newspapers every week, still no genocide...

the belgiums arguably worsened relationships between two social classes already existing within the country, which once left to their own devices started mass killin each other in record numbers, but how much of the blame can you feasibly pass on to europeans?

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On 09/02/2012 at 0:50 PM, local said:
On 09/02/2012 at 2:59 AM, Raegus said:

What are you insinuating? Whites have played no part in the current condition of blacks?

i'm insinuating that maybe you shouldn't be so quick to pass the buck

and that maybe somewhere hidden deep inside the negroe cranium there lies a place where blacks are capable of independent thought, sheltered from the evil winds of white influence

I mean I recognise that there's an obvious difference between the handling of race-related topics in the uk media and the unchallenged reinforcement of a gap between 2 social classes and then abandonment by foreign forces in Rwanda

but as picks up, asians are a familiar target for many newspapers n we are being pitted against each other everyday in the media. Yet no genocide...

a foreign people with quite dramatically different, often alien, values, morales and traditions have set up small colonies in the heart of every city and significant town in the past few generations and now take up quite a significant population of the country, an entire new class you could say

and yet despite this occurring without the consent of the english people, and new fear-mongering headlines in the newspapers every week, still no genocide...

the belgiums arguably worsened relationships between two social classes already existing within the country, which once left to their own devices started mass killin each other in record numbers, but how much of the blame can you feasibly pass on to europeans?

So you're Asian? I see. Telling your real views or just trying to create a gap between blacks and whites?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're not being a tr0ll.

Firstly I want to address your last point since you seem to have ignored my entire post. I specifically said it was not (the massacre) caused by white people but was CONNECTED to white people. A fair amount of the problems in Africa have not been directly caused by white people but if you go back far enough you'll often find the seeds planted by white people. But if we even acknowledge this fact then suddenly we're "just blaming whitey" and they go into full defensive mode. Many whites would have you believe not a single evil act was committed by them and all they've ever done is help people (they helped Native Americans with population control, they helped some blacks escape Africa by taking them as slaves, they helped the Australian Aborigine by stealing their mixed race children from them etc).

Now, so quick to pass the buck? Another way to say blaming whitey I suppose. That's not what's occurring here. It's not 'passing the buck' to point out foreign influence. There's nothing, NOTHING, I've said that you can't go and research right now. And no, it's not the scary joos just tampering with history to make the white man seem like a bad guy; I'm telling the truth. How does that equate to passing the buck? If you break a window and I get blamed for it am I passing the buck by saying you did it? I think it would be you who is passing the buck by saying I did it.

That genocide may be coming yet; haven't you noticed the growing resentment of Asians (and blacks of course, but to a lesser degree)? And you're not exactly building bridges with the black community.

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na i'm white (we as in asians and whites)

while we're at it, i'd like to know both yours, thuns and marv's ethnicity please, should help keep perspective, you a chinese/white/black hybrid?

i answered your question to me i don't think i've read your other posts yet

europeans do/have had a connection with / influence over with the majority of world's past and present events obviously

this isn't trumpet tooting its jus facts, they are/were the most travelled and well accomplished group of people in modern history, they have their fingers in all of the pies yes

my argument is that its the capability that has enabled this occurrence, rather than the mythical innate lust for blood that you like to imply europeans have

whether this capability is represented through intelligence, courage/curiousness or the will to exploit other groups of people should be irrelevant

regardless, the europeans obviously couldn't be held more responsible for the rwanda genocide as are the rwandans that were killing each other

the fact that you fail to recognise that europeans/whites are more than knowledgeable on the atrocities performed by their own people is odd

everyone has had their fair share of the slave trade, the holocaust and the kkk guilt propoganda tbh

oh and i don't doubt that a genocide may be coming

when the white to foreign blood ratio starts to even itself out i'm sure there's going to be power struggles

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Japanese.

It IS capability. But not a capability only innate in white people but in all.

They took the invention of the Chinese (Gunpowder) and used it to conquer the world, but you make it sound like it was a level playing field and white people just used their innate intelligence or what have you. The Chinese gave you a weapon and they couldn't possibly foresee how you would use it. You then used this weapon to subdue the native populations of other places through superior weaponry. Were you still using swords (your own invention) you would not have got very far in your conquests. Had the Chinese used their own invention in the way you did I (or you) would be sitting here debating with a Chinaman whether he is innately evil or not. Had they sold it to black people (who WERE trading with China before Europeans arrived) and black people had used it in the way you did etc etc, you get the point. Gunpowder is the key to your success (and it has most definitely been a success story for white people, congratulations bud) not any form of superior intelligence.

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I find that a lot of people, from my own experience (not stating it as fact) tend to base their current opinions of races or people because of things that happened in the past, and thus aren't willing to attribute to the past, harbour grudges and live life like that.

The gang culture cropping up in major cities in England is what I consider an example of that, but could very well be in response for white supremacists like the EDL.

whilst your clearly a reasonably intelligent man and you've shown yourself capable of using common sense and a knowledge of history to reach logical conclusions in this thread

you continue to expose yourself as a brainwashed liberal numpty

people try pass the blame so hard it gets to the point where blacks must be incapable of any real independant thought in some people's heads, jus vulnerable puppets in pinkys hand, whether it comes to genocide in zimbabwe, "gang culture" in the uk or a footballer wifin a white bird

must be a pretty destructive mindset to have tbh, but hey.......probably just another cause of the slave trade

Hey man, I am just trying to take in both sides of the coin here. None of it has or will ever have an affect on me and the circles I run in, so I don't particularly have hard line views on either or.

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When you start blaming a whole race because of certain individuals you are putting races in stereotypes

Not nice when your whole race get labelled as muggers or some other nasty attribute

Sadly when people get pushed , and pushed and pushed some more they will eventually fight back .

For years whites not all of course but a high percentage have treated blacks like sh*t .

For years whites have been playing divide and rule which dianne abbot rightly had to highlight

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When you start blaming a whole race because of certain individuals you are putting races in stereotypes

Not nice when your whole race get labelled as muggers or some other nasty attribute

Sadly when people get pushed , and pushed and pushed some more they will eventually fight back .

For years whites not all of course but a high percentage have treated blacks like sh*t .

For years whites have been playing divide and rule which dianne abbot rightly had to highlight

Maybe it's you that's get treated like sh*t as your looking at everyone like there the enemy

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Japanese.

It IS capability. But not a capability only innate in white people but in all.

They took the invention of the Chinese (Gunpowder) and used it to conquer the world, but you make it sound like it was a level playing field and white people just used their innate intelligence or what have you. The Chinese gave you a weapon and they couldn't possibly foresee how you would use it. You then used this weapon to subdue the native populations of other places through superior weaponry. Were you still using swords (your own invention) you would not have got very far in your conquests. Had the Chinese used their own invention in the way you did I (or you) would be sitting here debating with a Chinaman whether he is innately evil or not. Had they sold it to black people (who WERE trading with China before Europeans arrived) and black people had used it in the way you did etc etc, you get the point. Gunpowder is the key to your success (and it has most definitely been a success story for white people, congratulations bud) not any form of superior intelligence.

decent point

but i don't see how where you get that the chinese couldn't possibly foresee how they (not I) would use it

again, you appear to be underestimating the intelligence and independant thought of a people, the chinese are a smart bunch

what the f*ck you think they're gona do with guns? scare away evil spirits?

you fail to mention that the opening of trade and communication between europe and the east, and the only reason gunpowder was introduced to europeans, was a result of the failed Mongol invasion of europe

so rather than europeans conning the naive chinks into swapping their ingenious recipe for gunpowder with some magic beans and then going off to unsuspectingly use it for evil like you're trying to imply....

the mongols woulda known exactly what its purpose was because they'd used it against european armies when unsuccessfully trying to take over the world themselves

what say you to this nauongasoid

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When you start blaming a whole race because of certain individuals you are putting races in stereotypes

Not nice when your whole race get labelled as muggers or some other nasty attribute

Sadly when people get pushed , and pushed and pushed some more they will eventually fight back .

For years whites not all of course but a high percentage have treated blacks like sh*t .

For years whites have been playing divide and rule which dianne abbot rightly had to highlight

whats happened to you then son

seeing as you've clearly been pushed and pushed and pushed over the edge

what ever happened from since the riot thread a few months back to take you from "I can see why white people think bad of us!" to "time to fight back brothas!"

so if we're gona be silly and petty like you continue to be then fine.....lets play racist top trumps, you state what has personally been done to you by white people

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THE love fest between peado Jap c*nt, and thun has begun... aww.

lol @ mentioning the mongols when talking about gunpowder and the chinese

as if that isnt enough evidence of daemonism. gunpowder went through chinese, indian, middle eastern hands before getting to europe

its not as if the other cultures who had it didnt use it for worthwhile measures. giving a gun to a crazed man who takes the town hostage and rules as long as the gun is in his hand isnt evidence of an intelligent person, unless you are of course from the same crazed way of thinking as him.goodluck at getting an ethnicity out of thun.

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THE love fest between peado Jap c*nt, and thun has begun... aww.

lol @ mentioning the mongols when talking about gunpowder and the chinese

as if that isnt enough evidence of daemonism. gunpowder went through chinese, indian, middle eastern hands before getting to europe

its not as if the other cultures who had it didnt use it for worthwhile measures. giving a gun to a crazed man who takes the town hostage and rules as long as the gun is in his hand isnt evidence of an intelligent person, unless you are of course from the same crazed way of thinking as him.goodluck at getting an ethnicity out of thun.

there's not really any use for you here now that DOOM has returned tbh

this guy can atleast put a decent argument together and back his bullshit with relevant information, you were only ever here to keep his seat warm with your rambling nonsense

but why not....1 reply won't hurt

go on then.....why is the mention of mongols funny? it makes complete sense if read in context

as for all these worthwhile measures for gunpowder.....please explain what you mean by this. What the f*ck else was gunpowder used for other than weaponry by these noble men

please respond to what I have asked and don't go off on a semi-related rant thnx

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relevant wiki information yeh. ur just happy that people like him may not see through your stupidity or bother to entertain you.

ur like a typical stormfront user, who doesnt deserve a reasonable debate, just like one of those many racist fiends on the tube

you try hard to sound knowledgeable and intelligent, as well as respectful but theres an underlying tone behind it and an agenda

which to you is that people of colour have no place being in these isles...(regardless of what they have contributed IMMENSELY) to it...

for such people all you deserve is a laugh,

maybe a little fact dropping here and there but ultimately what you deserve is a big "f*ck YOU GONNA DO ABOUT ME BEING HERE HMM???

and you already know the answer to that is nothing.

so dont get mad cos i can play around at your level.... i aint your guest

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When you start blaming a whole race because of certain individuals you are putting races in stereotypes

Not nice when your whole race get labelled as muggers or some other nasty attribute

Sadly when people get pushed , and pushed and pushed some more they will eventually fight back .

For years whites not all of course but a high percentage have treated blacks like sh*t .

For years whites have been playing divide and rule which dianne abbot rightly had to highlight

whats happened to you then son

seeing as you've clearly been pushed and pushed and pushed over the edge

what ever happened from since the riot thread a few months back to take you from "I can see why white people think bad of us!" to "time to fight back brothas!"

so if we're gona be silly and petty like you continue to be then fine.....lets play racist top trumps, you state what has personally been done to you by white people

I never once said " i can see why white people think bad of us " because one i am not an apologist, 2 white people have done worse for centuries. Invading countries ,stealing oil ,land,gold,diamonds and anything else they can get their greedy hands on but i do stand by what i said when i said anyone who rioted is a d*ckhead because thats what they are. They basically went jail for 200 pound

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