Swear lamps is the only one smart enough to get it and forster is the only one in scotland to be linked to the scotish sun but the way they saying man is offended then its prob not one of the white lads.
Black players, in particular, should be tackling these issues because ultimately it will affect them when they retire. There are so many intelligent former black players, guys like Luther Blissett and Cyrille Regis, who never got a chance to become a top manager or a top coach because of the perception that surrounds people who look like them. They are black ā which, for many, means they are good athletes but incapable of being anything above and beyond that.
To a large extent this is down to unconscious racism and probably 99% of us are guilty of that ā I know I am. We all have preconceptions of people based on what we have been told about them and their race and ethnicity.
I still come across managers of a certain generation, those in their fifties and older, who say to me: "I don't see you as black", and think that is a compliment. So what, I don't walk around with my jeans down by my arse, smoking a spliff, so that means I'm not black? These are the attitudes we need to change if black people as a whole are going to progress, and the only way we can achieve that is through education.
This is what footballers have to do ā they cannot directly affect society but what they can do is use their standing in this country to make a wider audience aware of the wider issues surrounding race and stress the importance of understanding that what they have been told about a certain group of people is, in the main, wrong.
That, for instance, the best occupations black people can aspire to is being a footballer, or a runner, or a singer. People look at Barack Obama and say: "See, black people can be President" ā no they can't. Any black person who has been successful, particularly Obama, has been lifted out of blackness and stands as the exception.
We need to talk openly about perceptions and not be afraid of the fact that we all have different views about different people based on how they look. There is nothing racist about an open, honest dialogue and it is certainly more productive then pointing the finger at the CSKA Moscow fans, or at Luis SuÔrez or John Terry, and demanding they are punished.
Personally, I don't blame SuĆ”rez or Terry for what they did ā they are simply products of a society and environment that allows them to think it is OK to speak about certain people in a certain way. It would be far better if instead of banning them and demonising them, the Football Association aimed to educate them and make them see that black people are undeserving of racial abuse.
The truth is that Anton Ferdinand has more in common with Terry than he does with someone from Africa. They're wealthy guys from western culture who both drive Bentleys, both drink champagne and both listen to Tinie Tempah, yet Ferdinand is told he is different, that he is part of a race open to insults? That is ridiculous and, again, is the product of historically incorrect preconceptions.
Racism is never personal ā it's about someone saying the group I am part of is superior to the group you are part of. How, for instance, can a handsome, talented, beautiful black footballer be personally affected by a fat, ugly, unemployed fan calling them a black this or a black that? I used to get that when I was playing and I used to just look at the people doing it and think: 'You're abusing me? Look at you, how can you even dare abuse me?!'
Physically we are different ā east Africans, for instance, are genetically inclined to run long distances in shorter spaces of time ā but intellectually and morally we all have the potential to be the same. That is the type of equality I am interested in and is the message I give when speaking at universities and other public forums. And that is what more people involved in football, black players in particular should be doing. Because unless you get rid of racism in society, you can never get rid of it in football and as things stand there will always be these one-off moments when a player is abused or booed purely because of the colour of their skin.
Everyone goes into shock because they thought racism had disappeared from the game but how can it have done when it continues to exist in every other part of society at a more deep-seated, depressing level? Just because someone keeps their mouth shut for 90 minutes doesn't mean that for the rest of the week he isn't a racist, or hold unconsciously racist views, and until that is addressed, there will always be a problem.
Last night I laughed, didnt read what he said was too tired.
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Read it this morning and tbh he's not saying anything to ridicule but he ain't saying nothing black & white people don't already know. If he's gonna continue to go down this lane he has to hit harder tbh.
From he made pro, Barnes is a footballer first. His life changed a long time ago and he probably didnt realise until he needed a new job, no doubt it was the managerial jobs, as this is something he is constantly hurt about.
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Swear lamps is the only one smart enough to get it and forster is the only one in scotland to be linked to the scotish sun but the way they saying man is offended then its prob not one of the white lads.
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Another strong rumour is that it might've been Defoe.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL wtf
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Was gonna read then I saw John Barnes
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The sheer audacity of this uncle tom .Ā He has no business saying anything about race
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What a mess
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always cracks me up when them barnes and ince type guys try talk about racism.
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pmsl @ stacks post too
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LOOL no more no mas!
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Jokes aside John Barnes seen more than all of us put together.
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He has more right to speak on racism than most.
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@ toney dont include me in that "most" list
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This is why I can't even hate uncle toms any more, because these guys are happy and see nothing wrong with what they are doing . i generally think there needs to be some type of diagnoses because they clearly suffer from some form of mental illness . I mean come on this is not normal behaviour http://assets.lilycentre.org.uk/library/cache/jpg/3a59ebbfcaf326f2753ef66fe5cf8a11/2/johnbarnes.95b945b784adb4ea5977ceea92c0ebd6.1330718167.jpg
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Last night I laughed, didnt read what he said was too tired.
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Read it this morning and tbh he's not saying anything to ridicule but he ain't saying nothing black & white people don't already know. If he's gonna continue to go down this lane he has to hit harder tbh.
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You know about being humiliated infront of tens of thousands, week in week out?
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Cant get taken for donkey kong on the pitch and walk becky down the isle imo
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I wouldn't do it personally but everyman have different tolerance levels.
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He broke down a lot of barriers for black footballers and fans in this country, was the 1st black Superstar in England.
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I've seen enough from Barnes to know he is proud of his heritage.
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He only has kids with the 1st 2 women, them old women must be the nans of his kids.
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Smfh, you lot aint getting it...
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From he made pro, Barnes is a footballer first. His life changed a long time ago and he probably didnt realise until he needed a new job, no doubt it was the managerial jobs, as this is something he is constantly hurt about.
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^real talk
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