YFSD Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 50k @ 30 is not a bad realisation at all i mean dear i say people nowadays in ther mid 20s are on 35+ plus... so 50k at 30 is no biggy 50k at 30 is a good wage Very good 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brem Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My wife doesn't understand why I work so hard and I why I don't quit and move to any industry financial reporting job. Women don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 50k at any age is a good wage imo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 it is but if you are less than 30 and on 50k you are doing something correc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 50k at any age is a good wage imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodpecker Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 gave up drinking and smoking cigarettes NYD so time to repost - work about 5 hours per week for myself and earn about 1200-1500 euros per month after tax but don't pay rent, travel, food and can get various other things claimed back - wouldnt work any longer ever, lifes too short to waste slaving for someone else 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 50k at any age is a good wage imo I personally disagree with that statement because relatively speaking what constitutes as 'good' is subjective and dependent on ones situation What annoys me is that people like to use a persons salary as a yard stick to measure how 'successful' they are but in reality it has little or no bearing at all. for example, Someone on £50k a year could be 30k in debt, no savings and have no assets (house, car, etc) On the flip side someone on £25k a year could be debt free, have savings and a healthy mortgage....point is this person would get much further with the salary they have However, what you do with your money is a different story altogether. I personally feel as a salary man the difference in salary amount isnt that great as you will still face the same limitations and restrictions as the next salary man In my opinion perception on focusing on 'good wage' should be shifted to focusing on ones situation and judging whether they are in a strong position and influence etc, where in reality being a salary man would be way down the pecking order in this regard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nothing wrong with what you said, but being sensible and for the average normal personal 50k is a good salary, it's double the national average. You're financial situation and how you use your money is another matter entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 50k at any age is a good wage imo I personally disagree with that statement because relatively speaking what constitutes as 'good' is subjective and dependent on ones situation What annoys me is that people like to use a persons salary as a yard stick to measure how 'successful' they are but in reality it has little or no bearing at all. for example, Someone on £50k a year could be 30k in debt, no savings and have no assets (house, car, etc) On the flip side someone on £25k a year could be debt free, have savings and a healthy mortgage....point is this person would get much further with the salary they have However, what you do with your money is a different story altogether. I personally feel as a salary man the difference in salary amount isnt that great as you will still face the same limitations and restrictions as the next salary man In my opinion perception on focusing on 'good wage' should be shifted to focusing on ones situation and judging whether they are in a strong position and influence etc, where in reality being a salary man would be way down the pecking order in this regard. 50k is a good salary and your financial behaviour is independent of that. Not naming names or examples but you wouldn't think soo many people were on such decent salaries by how they act in other threads tbh People don't come to VIP2 to showcase their professionalism, come liek thos people that talk about work at the xmas party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 when companies say 'how much are you looking for?' are they saying this to see if you will bump yourself? they could have 35k in mind but you say 28 or 30 and they are thinking well thats fine with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 when companies say 'how much are you looking for?' are they saying this to see if you will bump yourself? they could have 35k in mind but you say 28 or 30 and they are thinking well thats fine with us Sat in a few interviews at work, they basically said they go up to £5k more than the offering wage if the right candidate asked for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nothing wrong with what you said, but being sensible and for the average normal personal 50k is a good salary, it's double the national average. You're financial situation and how you use your money is another matter entirely. Basically, this is a salary thread not personal finance thread. If you're on £50k you're doing something right. Not to say you're doing something wrong at £20k etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Ok lets take personal finance out of the thread any all the other external bits I mentioned in my previous post.. Can you please explain what a guy which is on £50k a year is enabled to do which a guy on £25k cant?........ for the guy earning earning 50k to be labelled as having a 'good wage' and for the guy earning less on 25k supposedly not (on a good wage) My argument is that there isnt any tangible difference between someone earning 50k and someone earning any less, which would make a huge difference in their life as earning 50 thousand pounds is hardly an enabling amount of money (in the society we live in), that's essentially lose change relatively speaking unless you introduce an external factor like saving (personal finance) into the equation which you guys were keen to dismiss in this argument therefore as far as I am concerned if you want to sit there and label 50k as a 'good wage' then on that principal so is any other amount, and based on this principle shouldn't be used as a yard stick to judge your own success the sooner people start to think like this this the sooner people will realise that the social elite (umbrella term for those with influence, position and power) and your employers aka your slave masters use this against us to keep us in line and prevent us from ever being free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Think you're thinking about it deeper than I was suggesting. If someone is paying you / you're able to generate your own income of £50k you are doing something right. If you're on £50k you can get a £200-250k mortgage in just your name, £25k you can only get a £100-125k mortgage. Also, I never said £25k isn't a good wage, I'm barely above that, girlfriend earns less than that, and we live a good life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodpecker Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 there isnt any tangible difference between someone earning 50k and about 25k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Badman, the point you're missing is that the national average is what is being used as a yard stick here and not the difference that an extra 25k has to your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Think you're thinking about it deeper than I was suggesting. If someone is paying you / you're able to generate your own income of £50k you are doing something right. If you're on £50k you can get a £200-250k mortgage in just your name, £25k you can only get a £100-125k mortgage. Also, I never said £25k isn't a good wage, I'm barely above that, girlfriend earns less than that, and we live a good life. i came in just to post that you can get a max mortgage of £300,000 just by yourself. 50k is approx £3,000 a month net 25k is approx £1,600 a month net now tell me who wouldnt want to be earning 50k a feel a time of alleviation? (sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Think you're thinking about it deeper than I was suggesting. If someone is paying you / you're able to generate your own income of £50k you are doing something right. If you're on £50k you can get a £200-250k mortgage in just your name, £25k you can only get a £100-125k mortgage. Also, I never said £25k isn't a good wage, I'm barely above that, girlfriend earns less than that, and we live a good life. No way you getting a mortgage 5 times your salary wtf. Even then you need a hefty deposit then again we are factoring saving. (again changing the goal posts of what we are discussing which you and others have been doing in this thread) Badman, the point you're missing is that the national average is what is being used as a yard stick here and not the difference that an extra 25k has to your life. that depends if you are happy to compare yourself to the average people out there Think you're thinking about it deeper than I was suggesting. If someone is paying you / you're able to generate your own income of £50k you are doing something right. If you're on £50k you can get a £200-250k mortgage in just your name, £25k you can only get a £100-125k mortgage. Also, I never said £25k isn't a good wage, I'm barely above that, girlfriend earns less than that, and we live a good life. i came in just to post that you can get a max mortgage of £300,000 just by yourself. 50k is approx £3,000 a month net 25k is approx £1,600 a month net now tell me who wouldnt want to be earning 50k a feel a time of alleviation? (sp) K firstly tell me where I said somebody wouldnt want to earn 50k, that is not my argument Secondly I am still waiting for my answer. What can £3000 get you that £1600 cant for one to be labelled as a 'good wage' and the other isnt (in modern day society) the only way I would consider a salary 'Good' in relation to any other is if its one which can enable me to do something which the others cant say maybe someone earning £200k a year or something. But even then my argument would be why would anybody strive to earn such a high salary, surely there becomes a point where you take the next step up towards financial independence? i.e. investing your money to make money to work less? That to me should be the real goal here and not focusing on such irrelevant and egotistical questions like 'what is your salary' then for people to act all smug when they feel they are on a 'good salary' just because its higher than next mans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 there isnt any tangible difference between someone earning 50k and about 25k Weren't you a Barrister earning £65k while selling your body or some shit. Will he revisit his his journey in the deep barons of the Amazon rain forest weaving in and out danger from the drug barons of the dangerous Cartels of south america? How is his blog faring, documenting his exploits around Europe and his on and off relationship drug mule girlfriend while she raises the cash to please her pimp daddy Or will he rekindle his romance with the 60+ yr old horny grandmother divorcee who uses him as a sex slave for a bit of cash How is his new life as an Orthodox Jew panning out? Will he ever gain the respect of chaps, imhim and the rest of the forum faithful To find out, tune in to the next episode of the Chronicles of Woodpecker the Vip2 poster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My mortgage is 5 x the salary.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 £3000 can you get you a nicer car/house/lifestyle than £1600. I must be missing your point completely.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 must be, lets leave it as that for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 there isnt any tangible difference between someone earning 50k and about 25k Weren't you a Barrister earning £65k while selling your body or some sh*t. Will he revisit his his journey in the deep barons of the Amazon rain forest weaving in and out danger from the drug barons of the dangerous Cartels of south america? How is his blog faring, documenting his exploits around Europe and his on and off relationship drug mule girlfriend while she raises the cash to please her pimp daddy Or will he rekindle his romance with the 60+ yr old horny grandmother divorcee who uses him as a sex slave for a bit of cash How is his new life as an Orthodox Jew panning out? Will he ever gain the respect of chaps, imhim and the rest of the forum faithful To find out, tune in to the next episode of the Chronicles of Woodpecker the Vip2 poster *dragonballz theme tune in background* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 everyone knows a mortgage is 5x your salary badman watagwan?? why do you think people find it hard to get a house/get on the property ladder? not only do you need GOOD CREDIT not only do you need 30% DEPOSIT but you need to be on a good salary as well and if you arent you need to club together with someone else just to get a £300,000 house / but back onto the subject of salaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meticulous Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 What can £3000 get you that £1600 cant for one to be labelled as a 'good wage' and the other isnt (in modern day society) 3k as a single person lets you rent your own studio/1 bed flat, pay all your expenses and still have the option of saving money or spending on luxuries at the end of it 1600 means you have to share your accommodation, pay your expenses and have next to nothing left like you said the ultimate aim here is to invest your money into something that enables you to work less; a 50k pa job will let you save the money twice as fast the national average is what is being used as a yard stick here and therefore 50k is a good wage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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