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All nothing stories and nothing ever happens or changes

AAnd these media companies are eating off all these clicks

They must absolutely love present trump

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10 hours ago, Gambino said:

This comes across as another big nothing story, built out of desperation for the fact they got zero evidence on Russian State collusion. 

Doesn't even appear to be as big an issue as the reports the DNC was working with the Ukraine Government trying to influence the US election by getting dirt on Trump.

https://www.rt.com/usa/395984-dnc-ukraine-white-house/

The emails are explicit proof of collusion - why are you posting Russia Today links about Hilary Clinton, out of interest?

Also -it's not a 'story built out of nothing' Trump Jr. tweeted these emails himself as he became aware they would be released by someone else. He has literally tweeted his own email interactions where this exchange takes place

 

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Goldstone: Don hope all is well. Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow on Thursday. 

Don Jr: How about 3 at our office? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.

Goldstone: Perfect... I won't sit in on the meeting, but will bring them at 3pm and introduce you etc. I will send the names of the two people meeting with you for security when I have them later today.

Don Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law and me.

 

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Goldstone: Emin called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras and they offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government support for Mr. Trump. I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it's ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. 

Don Jr: Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. 

Goldstone: Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin about this Hillary info.

 

 

This is a verbatim, Trump Jr being told that Russian government wanted to aid his fathers campaign via the leaking of highly classified, sensitive information, and he agreed to it.

This is illegal, it is also 100% proof of collusion. It is also proof that both Paul Manafort and Jared Kusher (who previously swore they did not know about the Russia situation) explicitly knew

I don't know why you seem to have turned into a paid account for Trump disinformation, like those you see on Reddit and Facebook - trump is brought up, and they respond with comments about Hilary and the DNC.

This email chain is literal and verbatim proof of collusion with Russian sources, posted by Don Jr himself.

Agreeing to accept high level info from the Russian government...and then attending the meeting. If this was about meeting a kid online, Chris Hansen would step out and ask Don 'have a seat over there'.

 

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10 hours ago, Zizouz said:

All nothing stories and nothing ever happens or changes

AAnd these media companies are eating off all these clicks

They must absolutely love present trump

I think you are underestimating the sort of time, effort, and political motions it takes to 'get something to change' - by that I assume you mean removing trump?

There has been a huge amount of work done by people from all corners to deal with this, the media, government institutions, the courts etc, not to mention public intellectuals and every day people 

People have already been forced to leave his campaign because of this, the FBI director has been fired, and now there's been solid proof unearthed of cooperation with a hostile foreign government....this isn't an ordinary issue, you are living through history

Your kids will hear jokes about this guy on the 70th season of the Simpsons

Though to quote Joe Rogan when Trump ran for office 'he will be a comedians dream, we will have endless material!'

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Being British I wouldn't care if Russia were involved in fucking up Clintons campaign. Don't believe they were, think she fucked it up nicely herself by being the cockroach that she is. But his supporters have witnessed a salty witch hunt against their man because the Democrats just like many of their followers struggle to accept the results of something. And they had used their Clinton News Network to push rubbish ever since.

We'll see what becomes of this Don Jr shit, probably NOTHING.

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17 minutes ago, Gambino said:

Being British I wouldn't care if Russia were involved in fucking up Clintons campaign. Don't believe they were, think she fucked it up nicely herself by being the cockroach that she is. But his supporters have witnessed a salty witch hunt against their man because the Democrats just like many of their followers struggle to accept the results of something. And they had used their Clinton News Network to push rubbish ever since.

We'll see what becomes of this Don Jr shit, probably NOTHING.

I don't support Hilary Clinton. She is irrelevant, Try to asses Trump without constantly referring to her and resorting to 'WhataboutX' interestingly this is a famous Putin political tactic.

Secondly, it's not about whether you care or not due to being British (even though you should, as Russia have been reported to have hacked and attempted to disrupt the British political process, as recently as 2016, reported here Russian hackers tried to disrupt UK general election, security sources ... as well as being thought to have been the cause of a recent wave of cyber attacks. Not to mention the funding of far right parties in Europe, and broadcasts on Russia today contesting the Scottish referendum vote. The destabilisation of European governments and democracies and the breakup of existing power structures is in the interests of Putin/Russia.

So in short, security forces in your own country have accused Russia of election meddling, intelligence services in the US, Sweden, Germany & Ukraine have accused them also.

Secondly, whether you are British or American or Armenian. You in this very thread posted that there was no collusion, nothing had happened and were willing to argue it to the hilt, and anything said in opposition of this was propaganda and fake news and a Witch hunt.

You are then confronted with solid evidence to the contrary.....and your response is what? Now you don't care? So before it was all fake news and propaganda, and now there's proof of it being true....you don't care? 

And lastly, you cannot say you 'don't believe they were' it does not matter if they were involved in in her losing or not, the thing that matters is that the Trump campaign received illegal help from a foreign power who has hostile interests, they then lied about this for months on end, up until yesterday.

It also asks the question IN RETURN FOR WHAT?

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I have to refer to her because I like a level playing field. How can everyone be constantly out to get Trump and not have any issues with Clinton? How can Schumer be calling for Don Jr to give any info he has over whilst they sat there giving zero fucks about Hilary deleting her 33,000 emails. How can Don Jr meeting with some women after being offered dirt on Clinton be any more significant than the DNC working with the Ukraine Government to get dirt on Trump and try influence their election....... It's Hypocrisy. 

Either things matter or they do not. Everyone has to play by the same rules. If Clinton won the election nobody would be saying Boo about anything.

There hasn't been solid evidence Trump colluded with Russia. As his son said, his dad didn't even know about the meeting ^)

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22 minutes ago, Gambino said:

I have to refer to her because I like a level playing field. How can everyone be constantly out to get Trump and not have any issues with Clinton?

Clinton is done. Finished. Donald Trump is the POTUS. He is deservedly judged on what he does, what he says, and what he does not do. I have seen you say a lot about terrorism and immigration and the like on here. You bringing up Hilary overtime Trump is criticised, is like muslim apologists saying 'omg what about the crusades' if someone talks about Jihadism. It's poor. The appropriate thing to do for an adult or anyone who considers themselves intellectually honest when confronted with a point they disagree with, is to talk about the facts and explain why they think it is wrong, not just shift the discussion away from it completely by complaining about someone else. Hilary was a rival during the election, she should have no baring on anything Trump or any of his supporters say now.

 

22 minutes ago, Gambino said:

There hasn't been solid evidence Trump colluded with Russia. As his son said, his dad didn't even know about the meeting ^)

His son said there was no meeting, he said they had never talked with Russians. His son and his campaign managers and his attorney general and his campaign manager have all said a lot of things. There is no reason to trust any of it.

And like I pointed out above, the emails are solid evidence that

Jared Kushner
Donald Trump Jr.
Paul Manafort

Senior advisors/son/campaign manager

Colluded with Russia, there is also ample evidence of them denying this. Not to mention Jeff Sessions. Not to mention the fucking Comey firing. 

Where is your head at? 

Stop playing hide the ball

 

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