Heero Yuy Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Edit, weren’t happy with that answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yhfam Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 12:23 PM, yhfam said: pmsl ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Trap God said: Disagree with a lot of what’s been said so far but I won’t get into that no energy for a pointless back and forth right now What I will say is I think the strange thing about the solutions presented so far in here is that none of them include actually speaking to these kids and finding out why they have so little value for their lives or the lives of others Only once we address this and address the root causes of their lack of self worth will we see a decrease in these killings Agree, reminds me of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Toney Barton said: Why do some men think it is ok to have kids with multiple woman or walk out on their child though? This isn't a simple answer. There is definitely a lot of behavioral psychology and environmental upbringing in play. The breakdown of the modern family unit. positive male role models. You look at the older generation, and the values of a relationship always used to come the environment they grew up in. You can still go way up north, to some of the most impoverished places in the UK, and still see a lot of young working class people following that model. There is also another solid argument that the custody system is overwhelmingly in favor of mothers. And the importance of fathers not being taken seriously enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restrictive Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 United Borders... A Solution Against Gang Culture. Quote “My parents often say that if you were walking the streets in their era and saw somebody who was black, you’d instantly cross the road, greet them and walk together. To see somebody who was black was seeing safety. How has Brent and the majority of the UK in the space of two generations, now seeing the reverse? To see somebody who is black, who looks like you is now a sign of danger.” - Justin, Founder of the United Borders Program. I had the opportunity to be a part of a youth program based in North West London. The program was called United Borders and its aim was to help the youth from two rival areas (Stonebridge and Church Road) to come together through music. It was here that I got to know the founder of the program and his reasons for starting it. Justin is a well known local who grew up in the borough of Brent, in a diverse and unified area known as Harlesden. He refers to Harlseden as the Wakanda of the day due to its visible and prevalent Afro-Caribbean culture. Being an ex-gang member although never actually being part of an official gang or having an official gang name. Justin believes that there are many reasons which have led to the rise in youth killings and youths carrying weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Kompressor said: What do you think these outside projects being delivered in schools will consist of? It'll be like a good PSHE workshop; it'll be discussion based. I even said, young people learn most from and with their peers. The adults in the room will merely be facilitating. Maybe this wasn't made explicitly clear. I wasn't talking about a textbook led intervention or some sort of clockwork Orange thing. I attended the same type of workshops you're referring to when I was going to secondary school in the late 90's I understand what they consist of and why for people like me they're ineffective although to say that they're totally pointless or they won't have a positive outcome for some kids would be ignorant of me I just understand that a lot of these kids are taking their cues from the world as from their perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 i think many of you are making things more complicated than it needs to be we (the unconnected black community) need to really start owning our problems, issues and actively start loving each other especially our kids who are mirrors of us we need to show love, care and attention to our kids and stop being part-time parents or ask for help. most of these kids just need love, care, routine and attention (obviously they're some that need a lot more) i see a lot of parents (2 & single) expose their kids to fuckery all the time like having no routine, using foul language, letting lil man stay out on a school night till late, not knowing who their jamming with, letting them watch films/music videos they shouldn't be watching while their "busy" on facebook, insta soaking up bare fuckery instead reading with the child, cooking for the child and playing with the child (not sitting them down with ipad/smart phone and letting them entertain themselves) we need to stop loving the fuckery, i know and i am sure many of you know too many ppl who constantly celebrate the fuckery that their criminal family and friends go on with every day. then when shit goes wrong their the first to cry foul play, applying selective memory which resembles connective dissonance in the same way white ppl deal with the fuckery of slavery we need to own slack parenting when a teacher tells the parent(s) that lil man was rude and disrespectful instead of cussing out the teacher and telling them about themselves accept that 2 generations deep minimum we've slacked big time, accept there's a big disconnect between generations and lets try to rebuild I have left out the slavery/racism element out coz everything needs to start from within first for fuck sake we don't even use the criminal money we get to set solid foundations for our loved ones coz we too busy showing we living the life with big whips, chains, holidays etc instead investing in simple tings like life insurance (very underated way to raise generational wealth) in 2018 how can families be setting up gofundme pages for funeral costs? STOP CELEBRATING & LOVING THE FUCKERY COZ YOUR CHILD WILL END UP DOING THE SAME 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtec Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Adding onto @Incumbent post. (US audience in the 1st instance, but applicable globally) Until blacks stop seeking solutions and hand outs from your natural oppressor and not taking charge of some of internal self defeating behaviours... Getting out of the victim mode, and seeking justice from an injust system and create your/our own lane. But always important to educate on the systemactic aspects to see what type of beast you are up against. And escaping the trap that keeps you suckled on massa nipple and beggin hugs/acceptance from a society at large which ain't got your interests at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurryMan Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Guy jumped in an extended family's garden with a bag with guns in it. Police nabbed him had helicopter following etc. East London ... supposedly the guy was from south London and they had intell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kompressor Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Trap God said: I attended the same type of workshops you're referring to when I was going to secondary school in the late 90's I understand what they consist of and why for people like me they're ineffective although to say that they're totally pointless or they won't have a positive outcome for some kids would be ignorant of me I just understand that a lot of these kids are taking their cues from the world as from their perspective Indeed. There are plenty of shit workshops out there. No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurryMan Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kompressor said: Indeed. There are plenty of shit workshops out there. No doubt. Basically, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kompressor Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, CurryMan said: Basically, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Some people don't see they need to be helped though. Like I said there are plenty of shit workshops. A good workshop is engaging and subject based enough to get even a minimal result in some level. A good workshop as has been mentioned allows the young people to identify their specific problems and correct interventions and attainable targets in the short medium and long term to turn things around. The adult is merely a facilitator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kompressor said: Some people don't see they need to be helped though. real talk right there, most don't even know shit aint right in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 They are discussing this on lbc now. Lack of youth centres.. first caller already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Afroman said: They are discussing this on lbc now. Lack of youth centres.. first caller already thats all they know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 23 hours ago, Heero Yuy said: Fathers need to be fathers, and the single parent households need to be on the decrease. Men need to stop running away from their responsibility and women need to stop thinking they can do this without a man. real fucking talk there's a lot d*ck head fathers about and it really gets man vex coz many of them are just choosing not to be active in there child's life last week one don (28) i kick ball with decided he wanted to go gym then link one chick instead of having his 2 kids for the weekend, the c*nt made one of his bm leave work early and cancel her plans and begged his mum to look after his other child bare in we've all witnessed constant taking the piss, not answering calls from bms and just seems to do the very minimal so I lost it and i told the guy about himself, the truth must have hurt so man attempted to swing, he missed, i connected then the man dem stop it, these times i am calling him all kinds of waste man names the fucker works and earns good p, lives with mumzy yet only gives £20 a month to his bm via csa smh / equally they're waste mothers out there doing madness too but at least most of them (due to society backing them) by default forced to raise the child / racism has always forced the black family apart and most of us know this yet we continue on the same path we need to heal so bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 This thread is iust depressing. Definitely not raising my children in London when I have them. The harsh reality is that there are problems that stem from the roots up and from an apathetic government who clearly don’t give a damn. I know the problem spreads to outside of London but not every city has the same level of severity with the issues this city has. From acid, knife, moped attacks, why live in an expensive shit hole? Born and bred in London my whole life and to see how it’s deteriorated is beyond heartbreaking. I fully understand why there are black parents moving their children to less cosmopolitan areas. Rather raise them around safety even if it does mean a lack of “diversity”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheOneGameBaller said: This thread is iust depressing. Definitely not raising my children in London when I have them. The harsh reality is that there are problems that stem from the roots up and from an apathetic government who clearly don’t give a damn. I know the problem spreads to outside of London but not every city has the same level of severity with the issues this city has. From acid, knife, moped attacks, why live in an expensive shit hole? Born and bred in London my whole life and to see how it’s deteriorated is beyond heartbreaking. I fully understand why there are black parents moving their children to less cosmopolitan areas. Rather raise them around safety even if it does mean a lack of “diversity”. There is nothing wrong with London. You can't be following the steps of these selfish parents thst raise their kids in places like Bath. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Afroman said: There is nothing wrong with London. You can't be following the steps of these selfish parents thst raise their kids in places like Bath. There is “nothing” wrong with London? Ok, I’m not going to even challenge someone with that point of view if you truly believe that. As far as calling them “selfish parents” for moving their children to Bath, that’s a very parochial way of thinking. You don’t know their motivations were for doing so. It could’ve been due to work, family, a myriad of reasons. Now I personally wouldn’t move to Bath or raise my children there but it’s more selfish to raise your children in an environment where they’re more exposed to violence like London is. I don’t get this “selfish” mentality because someone wants better for their children. If you feel there’s “nothing” wrong in London then you can continue to bury your head in the sand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Incumbent said: last week one don (28) i kick ball with decided he wanted to go gym then link one chick instead of having his 2 kids for the weekend, the c*nt made one of his bm leave work early and cancel her plans and begged his mum to look after his other child bare in we've all witnessed constant taking the piss, not answering calls from bms and just seems to do the very minimal so I lost it and i told the guy about himself, the truth must have hurt so man attempted to swing, he missed, i connected then the man dem stop it, these times i am calling him all kinds of waste man names the fucker works and earns good p, lives with mumzy yet only gives £20 a month to his bm via csa smh You done the right thing Could not par with them man there, infact it's open hostility / This London talk is proper stupid but then again this whole discussion was sparked by wass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Incumbent said: real fucking talk there's a lot d*ck head fathers about and it really gets man vex coz many of them are just choosing not to be active in there child's life last week one don (28) i kick ball with decided he wanted to go gym then link one chick instead of having his 2 kids for the weekend, the c*nt made one of his bm leave work early and cancel her plans and begged his mum to look after his other child bare in we've all witnessed constant taking the piss, not answering calls from bms and just seems to do the very minimal so I lost it and i told the guy about himself, the truth must have hurt so man attempted to swing, he missed, i connected then the man dem stop it, these times i am calling him all kinds of waste man names the fucker works and earns good p, lives with mumzy yet only gives £20 a month to his bm via csa smh / equally they're waste mothers out there doing madness too but at least most of them (due to society backing them) by default forced to raise the child / racism has always forced the black family apart and most of us know this yet we continue on the same path we need to heal so bad Has no one pulled him to the side and spoke to him about this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheOneGameBaller said: There is “nothing” wrong with London? Ok, I’m not going to even challenge someone with that point of view if you truly believe that. As far as calling them “selfish parents” for moving their children to Bath, that’s a very parochial way of thinking. You don’t know their motivations were for doing so. It could’ve been due to work, family, a myriad of reasons. Now I personally wouldn’t move to Bath or raise my children there but it’s more selfish to raise your children in an environment where they’re more exposed to violence like London is. I don’t get this “selfish” mentality because someone wants better for their children. If you feel there’s “nothing” wrong in London then you can continue to bury your head in the sand. Was referencing a previous comment made in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Thizz said: Has no one pulled him to the side and spoke to him about this before? probably but most these man can't see the woods from the trees, too many of them about i would tell u another story about a different guy when i was getting a trim last year but i'd rather not, it didn't end well for me even though everyone was thinking the same thing let's just say if feds weren't walking past i would have been a dead man all coz i told this road man about his wotless ways in a debate he started about parenthood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Hxhfhf Incumbent handing out hottings with zero hesitation You could be the chosen one cuh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kuffir said: Hxhfhf Incumbent handing out hottings with zero hesitation You could be the chosen one cuh Jfjfifiririfirifkdjrudjhd That Roadman didn't see it coming Man came for a trim and some jokes. Ended with life lecture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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