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@Admin. you can neg but it's been studied.

It's a fact that certain religious practices influence consumption of intoxicants. Generally speaking, what I said is true.

Therefore British drinking culture in the early days was EXCLUSIVE - excluding those who chose not to drink on religious grounds. This had knock-on effects in how groups socialised also.

http://www.integrationhub.net/module/society-integration-and-everyday-life/

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  • Chinese people have the highest life expectancy and Pakistanis the lowest. White British people are more likely to smoke and to drink alcohol regularly (70.2 per cent) compared with minorities (58 per cent); Pakistanis are least likely to drink (12.8 per cent).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43505784 

 

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A new survey, commissioned by the BBC to investigate attitudes to alcohol among British Sikhs, found that - although drinking alcohol is forbidden in Sikhism - 27% of British Sikhs report having someone in their family with an alcohol problem. It's a problem which is rarely talked about openly in the community.

http://eprints.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/159/6/Cricket the Post-Match Drink and Exclusion of British Muslims.pdf

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Contact with alcohol is not permitted according to Islamic faith, which means that practising Muslims are unable to participate in activities where it is consumed. These constraints are rarely respected by white Brits and the inability (often perceived as reluctance) of some to participate in drinking activities, would likely lead to their exclusion. Burdsey and Randhawa (2012) point to the carnivalesque atmosphere created at English professional football stadiums as an example of this. They argue that the habit of many (white male) fans to spray beer over one another during the half time interval is demonstrative of the often unpleasant and intimidating atmosphere generated at sports events where alcohol is involved. Moreover, they argue that such practices make it impossible for strict Muslim supporters to interact with these spaces when sport is being played. They urge professional football clubs to engage with British Asian communities in order to put in place measures that will create safer and more sanitized spaces; alcohol‐free zones for instance, which will facilitate their long‐term inclusion

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“As English culture is so focussed around drinking and going to the pub, Pakistanis, Muslims really, have difficulty partaking.    I find the whole drinking in a pub for the whole afternoon or evening such a bore and waste of time. So I can’t identify with this as part of my culture. Asians and, in particular, Muslims, want to preserve their own identities and values, and drinking is not a feature of this”.

http://alcoholresearchuk.org/downloads/finalReports/AERC_FinalReport_0029.pdf

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When one considers the South Asian and African Caribbean communities and their relationship to alcohol, then religion and its impact must be given serious consideration. Some of the earlier studies are helpful in gaining insight into what these diverse communities think, feel, believe about alcohol, its use, misuse, promotion and to what extent it matters, and in considering the question 'for whom and where would you go for help?'. Religious texts and scriptures are interesting here as Ghosh (1984) highlights, in that all the major faith groups, (i.e. Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism) are generally, if not totally, prohibitive of the use of alcohol and in some cases other intoxicants.

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Cochrane and Bal’s (1990) study and Cochrane (1999) looked at male drinking patterns of South Asian and African Caribbean men and found that increased religious attendance resulted in lower levels of alcohol consumption and therefore less problematic use. This is further supported by Orford, Johnson and Purser (2003) who also state that “Religious identification appears to be a significant factor in whether second generation ethnic minority group members in England drink or not. For men this 15 is more important than other social or cultural factors. Religious identity is also associated with less risky drinking among those who do drink. For women drinking and risky drinking were strongly related to a number of cultural and religious variables, especially identifying less strongly with one’s religion and ethnic group…”

 

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Rehiding the negs

everyone thank elementalism...

negged you for indians dont drink you twat

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55 minutes ago, The Somalian said:

Big up the Tiger and Cobra crew. Hold tight my asians who love that brown liquor 

Chivas >>>>

48 minutes ago, Elementalism said:

It's not though is it :/

@Drift you're a proper sideman when it comes to holding opinions.

You just lean up alongside next man.

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Edit: I'll bet money you never set foot in a university in your life.

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I know what I'm saying.

Just because you've had a drink with a couple Asian man doesn't mean my statement isn't valid. It's semantics.

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Certain man won't know what I'm saying on this either, but there was a bag of J'cans, especially the older generation, who were addicted to the bookies. Every frontline across the country had a bookies fulled with man backing horses on payday. The amount of washed up gamblers I've seen is - the Skepta line about 'bookmakers...but not one bookshop' is a real one.

You'd be hard pushed to find an Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi in a bookies. The ones who do, from my generation, were the ones who drank, smoked and fucked young goris - them man were marginal in their communities anyway. They couldn't be seen to be doing fuckery in public.The community kickback is completely different with Asians. Most of the Asians I've seen out drinking are the wronguns, who've been shunned already anyway.

Asians will intervene fast and if necessary ship a kid back home real quick for a reality check.  Sending youts to Jamaica can easily backfire, the kids come back badder than before.
 

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Another secret with Asian wealth is opium.  

Heroin was something that propelled certain Asian families into the landlord/business class within a generation. It's not uncommon to find at least one established Asian family, especially in historic Labour strongholds in the Midlands and up North, that owns several hundred houses in a city (usually let to council tenants), plus restaurants, continental supermarkets, phone shops, taxi firms etc. Huge palace under construction home, donations going to the local MP and mosque - all good. 

Economically, no amount of weed juggling can compete with opium and Asians were blessed in that regard.

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The crack generation fucked up the legitimate economics in a lot of West Indian areas. A lot of the just-come Yard man would gravitate to the various pubs and clubs that more established Jamaicans owned, got comfortable and proceeded to completely fuck up the legal runnings; licking sales in toilets or in car parks, robbing people, getting into shootouts or knife fights etc.

Police have shut down so many black owned nightclubs, food spots and even community centres because of the fuckery that one particular generation carried with them. Yet I've never seen a bookies get shut, no matter how many junkies queue up inside.

 

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16 minutes ago, Thizz said:

 

????????????????????????????

You do realize that nobody in this thread is talking to you, or about anything that relates to you. 

Even if man laugh at my points, I've got a horse in the race. You though, you're not a factor in this discussion yet you force an entry. Whatever your angle is, I doubt you genuinely care what direction this thread takes - and I could extrapolate from there.

When a man makes a thread about ginger London pub lad culture being appropriated, hop on board and write some essays. Otherwise your presence (based on your contributions) is baffling.

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Indians definitely drink.

Was invited to a business event by some sikhs. I was shocked seeing these man chugging back pints like it was no tomorrow. Not even a likkle shot. Pints.

Always thought it was against their religion to drink.

I swear some of them man could rival white man the way they drink

Pakistanis on the other hand dont imo.

Theyre more into smoking.

 

 

 

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Just now, dayomesaydayo said:

Indians definitely drink.

Was invited to a business event by some sikhs. I was shocked seeing these man chugging back pints like it was no tomorrow. Not even a likkle shot. Pints.

Always thought it was against their religion to drink.

I swear some of them man could rival white man the way they drink

Pakistanis on the other hand dont imo.

 Theyre more into smoking.

 

 

 

Indians are more into it than Pakistanis. There's a lot of recent articles about Sikhs struggling with alcoholism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43505784

The stigma within Pakistani communities is much stronger - therefore the problem manifests underground.

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